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Author Subject: EW engine and GTi6 box
pugjim

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Post #1
As above does the GTi6 gearbox fit an EW engine?
Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 12:52
Rich E Forum Admin

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Post #2
Think so yeah.

I'm pretty sure jonnie205 uses the 6 speed box in 206 GTi's at the rally school.

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Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 12:55
pugjim

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hmm interesting, just thinking over a 306 GTi6180 engine conversion....
Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 12:56
welshpug!

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Rich E wrote:
Think so yeah.

I'm pretty sure jonnie205 uses the 6 speed box in 206 GTi's at the rally school.


they aren't gti's, they are XSI's, TU5JP4 engines, peugeot sport be3-TU bellhousings, jonnie uses the gti6 internals to keep things moving cheaper than buying bits from peugeot sport france.

the standard be3/4-6 bellhousing is the wrong angle for an EW engine, however you can mod an ew bellhousing to work with the 6 speed, means drilling a hole in the clutch area for the selector shaft to move far enough, then adding a cap so the oil doesn't p**s out.

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Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 13:30
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Ah ok, fair enough.

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Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 13:57
pugjim

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Post #6
So sticking with the BE4 GTi180 box would be an easier way? im guessing the ratios will be best suited to the gti180 engine anway?
Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 15:31
matt evans

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pugjim wrote:
So sticking with the BE4 GTi180 box would be an easier way? im guessing the ratios will be best suited to the gti180 engine anway?


The GTi180 is quite a nice engine, ive certainly been impressed with mine since i had it. Seems to gather speed quite quickly without revving the tits out of it, the mid range punch from 3k to 5k is a touch stronger than a 6, but its not quite as rampant at the top end.

The 5 speed box is ok, not as closely stacked as the 6 speed, but it doesnt seem to matter. As for power, ive had mine on the rollers and it made 181bhp at 7010rpm (127K miles, janspeed cat back and panel filter) and it reved to 7600 rpm before the limiter cut in.

Much quieter when running as well, and it doesnt suffer from hot oil temps when on track like the 6's do. Mine never went above 100degreeC on the oil temp gauge, even after 35 minute sessions at Donnington.

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Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster LOL


owain wrote:
Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 16:23
welshpug!

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yeah, its not a bad box apparently, not to dissimilar to a xsara box, 6 speed is doable, but its not just bolt on.

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Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 16:23
matt evans

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The gear change is a bit slower than a 6, i put that down to being cable change v's rods??

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honestly3k wrote:
Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster LOL


owain wrote:
Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 16:26
adam b

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Post #10
You can probably change the angle on the cable shifter on top of the box to make the throw less. Its what they do on the volvo cable shifters.

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Posted 24th Feb 2013 at 17:55
miles

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Post #11
Quite easy to fit, just use mix and match parts, I use 206 GTi internals on my 306 and the end casings and internals are all of the same design

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