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as title ive got a gti 6 track car and the synchro is getting weak on second gear, i had a 205 gti 1.9 with the 1.6 box a while back and it flew due to the lower ratio's. Was wondering if the same can be done with the gti 6 easily and if its worthwhile or not. Any advice appreciated, cheers
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 stevec33
Newbie  Location: Peterborough Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 41 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:46
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #2
main problem is the Ns drive shaft cup and clutch linkage. Xsara vts is the way to go for 5 speed |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:48
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #3
The box fits but I'm not sure the shaft will ? Also you need to change the clutch and flywheel I believe ? |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:51
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Put the 306 diff in it - no shaft problems then.________________________________________  |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 12:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #5
no shaft problems anyway, its the other way round you get issues.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 13:54
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stevec33
Newbie Location: Peterborough Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 41 Status: Offline |
Post #6
ok thanks for the replys, are the ratios lower/different in the xsara box to the gti 6? like i said would be great to get some more acceleration out of it if a lower ratio box is a straightforward swap |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 14:36
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Not sure what the ratios are but I imagine 1-5 of the GTi-6 box are similar to the 205 1.6 box.________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 15:02
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #8
scotzman wrote: Not sure what the ratios are but I imagine 1-5 of the GTi-6 box are similar to the 205 1.6 box. Look them up. You'll be surprised. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 15:06
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #9
just did  http://www.205gti.com/techgearboxUK.htm ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 15:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #10
yup, you're in the right ballpark there with that comment, but 4-5-6 are closer.gear speeds @ 7200 rpm on a 4.05 FD for the gti6 box. 41 64 85 104 126 150 gear speeds @ 7200 rpm on 1.6 box (4.06 FD, 3.3 of 2.92 1st) 36/41 64 88 112 138 all on 195 50 15. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 16:57
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allsmiles
Regular  Location: burton upon trent Registered: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i ran a 1.6 gti box on a gti6 engine and that those gears were really close, possibly a bit too closethe xsara box would be the way forward i still have a 1.6 gti box(be1) in my shed that i kept for spares ________________________________________ 205 gti6 now sold up, but gonna stick around and see whats what |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 03:36
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stevec33
Newbie Location: Peterborough Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 41 Status: Offline |
Post #12
The thing is i dont mind them quite close as its only going to need to top out at say 120mph really as its a track only car, no point having a box with gearing for say 160mph as your just wasting acceleration. Dosent look to me as though the ratios on paper are that much different 1-5 between the two though? Would the xsara box give me better acceleration? Not really heard of doing that conversion as you'd expect the ratios to be longer with it only being 5 speed |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 06:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #13
allsmiles wrote: i ran a 1.6 gti box on a gti6 engine and that those gears were really close, possibly a bit too close funny quote, given 1-3 are nigh on identical, and 4-5-6 are closer together  MI16/zx16v ratios @7200 on 195 50 15. 38 59 86 113 144 vts ratios 38 59 86 115 148 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 10:34
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stevec33
Newbie Location: Peterborough Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 41 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Anybody got any comments on the xsara box then? |
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Posted 9th Feb 2013 at 15:15
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