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mike rallye

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hi guys, am after some advice. went to start the car this morning and it started and cut out. have tried starting it since then and it just wont fire up am going to check the following

1)timing belt
2)spark plugs
3)fitted new speed sensor

what else could I try and look for.

thanks in advance
Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 08:28
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Post #2
Firstly check the timing belt is ok.

If this checks out then you need to determine whether or not you have a spark. To do this, take a coil pack and spark plug out, put the plug back in the coil and then place the threaded part of the plug on the cam cover to give it an Earth and hold the coil pack. Get an assistant to crank the engine. You should see the spark plug sparking, if not you have no spark and I would imagine the crank sensor will be the culprit. Yes

If you have a spark then you need to look at the fuel system. Does the fuel pump prime when you switch on the ignition?

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 08:35
coskev

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As above, plugs could tell you whats wrong.if they are wet you might be lucky and it's just flooded.

If there is no spark and no fuel good chance it's the crank sensor, as that's what let's the ecu know the engine is turning overThumbs up

Otherwise have you changed/fitted anything new to the engine recently?

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 08:53
mike rallye

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Post #4
cheers guys will give them a try. I can hear the fuel pump kick in when I turn the ignition on.
but will inspect the timing belt first, followed by the plugs.

no new parts have been fitted lately.

what I have noticed those, is when the ignition is on the engine light stays on. normally they go out don't they with just the ignition on?
Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 09:04
fordygti

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I had this problem of car not starting after changing the loom and fitting a sc kit. It turned.out somewhere.it had dropped.an.earthe.so.the plugs wernt sparking and.the injectors aren't.putting fuel.into the rail. Another idea if that helps.

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 09:43
peetypug

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Post #6
My rallye had this not long ago and it turned out the immobiliser was not sending a signal to the ecu

Unlocked ecu sorted it, so if the other checks fail may be worth checking that

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 09:51
mike rallye

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how would I check to see if a immobiliser fault or a ecu?
Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 09:56
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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mike rallye wrote:
how would I check to see if a immobiliser fault or a ecu?


See if you have a spark. If you don't and a new crank sensor doesn't sort it then it's likely it is an immobiliser problem. Yes

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 13:13
mike rallye

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Result ,it is alive again

after checking the timing belt and finding this was fine, I then took a guess on buying a crank sensor. once I managed to fit the new one (fiddly to do) if fired into life. so at the moment it is going well.

thanks for the advice and help guys Thumbs up
Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 18:27
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No problem, glad it's all sorted mate! Thumbs up

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 18:51
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Stans the man once again

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 18:56
swiftyboi006

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Stan'll fix it for ya

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 19:01
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swiftyboi006 wrote:
Stan'll fix it for ya


I'm not sure I want that jingle...LOL

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 19:39
swiftyboi006

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Laugh my ass off Thumbs up

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 19:59
mike rallye

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Post #15
LOL
Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 21:19

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