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russbez

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Post #1
anyone advise me of the weight of an gti6 engine, attempting to get a shipping price to france

its not got much attached....


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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:10
welshpug!

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you have it in front of you, stick it on the bathroom scales LOL

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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:41
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IIRC it's about 550 kilos with the ancillaries, so price it up at 520 kilos

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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:49
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what! absolutely no chance it's anywhere near that

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Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:49
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Damn missed out quoting Rich306 with his 600kg estimate of a full engine LOL

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  • Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:49
    welshpug!

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    Post #6
    rich306 wrote:
    IIRC it's about 550 kilos with the ancillaries, so price it up at 520 kilos


    Laugh my ass off


    my guesstimate as it sits there would be roughly 125 kilos.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 09:53
    russbez

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    LOL

    ill tell them its 125kg and see how it goes

    iirc whole engine around 220kgs, was hopeing that a bare engine would be a lot less

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 10:15
    eliotrw

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    rich306 wrote:
    IIRC it's about 550 kilos with the ancillaries, so price it up at 520 kilos


    Lmao.

    It weighs as much as a Caterham then basically Razz

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 10:23
    jonnie205

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    just say 150kg it wont make any difference on price on pallets up to 500kg
    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 10:26
    russbez

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    Post #10
    yeh i thought that eh....

    TNT wanted around £100+vat when i said it was 70kgs
    told them it was 125kgs now they want £185+vat Sad

    I am in the Highlands of Scotland, and it is a fair trip to mid France

    Will try someone else

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 10:32
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    550kgs! LOL

    The whole car only weights 1250kg standard...

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 11:25
    dangti6

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    stan_306gti6 wrote:
    550kgs! LOL

    The whole car only weights 1250kg standard...


    Only? LOL

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  • Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 11:31
    welshpug!

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    where you get 1250 from, even the full fat p3's with rainroof and a/c and side airbags don't weigh that LOL


    I know they weigh 580 odd without drivetrain and suspension or seats Ninja

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 11:34
    dcc

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    520kilos! Trololololol

    I'd expect it to be around 90kilos.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 11:50
    welshpug!

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    naah, more than that dan, its iron, XU9 8v weighs more than 90.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 12:40
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    welshpug! wrote:
    where you get 1250 from, even the full fat p3's with rainroof and a/c and side airbags don't weigh that LOL


    I know they weigh 580 odd without drivetrain and suspension or seats Ninja


    Peugeot 306 GTi-6 1996 model (Phase 1) kerb weight is: 1214kg...

    So add the "full fat" as you call it bits and pieces for a Phase 3 and you're looking around the 1250kg mark...Roll eyes

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 12:45
    eliotrw

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    stan_306gti6 wrote:
    welshpug! wrote:
    where you get 1250 from, even the full fat p3's with rainroof and a/c and side airbags don't weigh that LOL


    I know they weigh 580 odd without drivetrain and suspension or seats Ninja


    Peugeot 306 GTi-6 1996 model (Phase 1) kerb weight is: 1214kg...

    So add the "full fat" as you call it bits and pieces for a Phase 3 and you're looking around the 1250kg mark...Roll eyes

    Dont forget a phase 1 is lightest car peugeot with a xu10j4rs though, And if a Rallyes is 50 odd kg lighter then the gap has to be bigger than that.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 12:50
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    The point I was making is that the figure I gave in the first place was around the correct ballpark despite it being knocked as being ridiculous...

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 12:53
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    Fair point Smile
    For future reference a rallye is 1163kg as said here : http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=74745
    Which puts a Phase 3 6 in at 1214kg

    The issue is that no where lists the weight differences by year, They all have the same value (I.e phase 3 one)
    In reality a phase 2 is about 10 kg less than a phase 3 and a phase ones probably 50 less than a phase 2.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 12:56
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    Well if a Phase 1 '6' weighs 1214kg, a Phase 3 will be more than that. Yes

    I think the info you've found only gives the weight for the first model 1996 version and then the other models after that aren't listed although they will weigh more.

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 13:11
    ryangti6

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    That block should be about 120 kg, I weighed one before albeit in seperate parts and that's roughly what they add up to.

    I thought car weight wise a ph1 is ~1140, a rallye ~1170 and a 'full fat' ~1220,

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 13:25
    swiftyboi006

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    Phase 1 is 1214kg

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 13:26
    swiftyboi006

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    Although i had mine weighed on a weighbridge at a gravel pit and it was 1190kg not sure how much fuel and i cant remember what was in the boot Dunno so say take off 20kg then thats what it weighed

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 13:28
    swiftyboi006

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    ^^1140 prob sounds about right

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    Posted 23rd Nov 2012 at 13:30
    eliotrw

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    stan_306gti6 wrote:
    Well if a Phase 1 '6' weighs 1214kg, a Phase 3 will be more than that. Yes

    I think the info you've found only gives the weight for the first model 1996 version and then the other models after that aren't listed although they will weigh more.


    No no no.
    A Phase 3 is 1215kg
    All the data for weights is for phase three
    EXCEPT if you search for a Rallye,
    Where you see they are 1163kg
    If a Phase 1 is lighter than a rallyee, Then it is Obviously less than 1163kg.
    We know that the Rallye is 53kg lighter than a 6.
    Which convieniently is what the web says a 1996 306 weighs
    See what i'm saying here???

    In conclusion

    Phase one <1163
    Phase two circa 1200 dead
    Rallyee1163
    Phase 3 1215

    I should be a detective

    Ryan is also on the money.

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