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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #26
ZX usually runs same as a 306, ET19.Not sure if it'll need any work at all other than taking the centre bore out by 1.7mm as they're a ford fit currently, just trying to find the inserts for them at the moment as they are proper Motorsport wheels and they are missing. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
 Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 15:21
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Glad to have you back Mei, interesting to hear a little insight into yourself and your tradeWhere does all the insane knowledge on part numbers, sizes differences between Peugeot motors then? Been gobbling up Haynes manuals ? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job  |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 15:25
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I've been looking at comp mo5s (mo1777) for my track 6 but don't know if they are worth the extra weight over pro races  ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 15:26
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Haynes manuals and the interwebs, also epic list of bookmarks on my Desktop PC.Part numbers generally come off servicebox unless I remember some. MO's will weigh more though how much I couldn't say, they are more of a rally wheel so will be strong, though if they are more recent ones they will be lighter than old ones. These TH's for example weigh about 8.8 kios, the new casting they are producing is under 7 kilos for some offsets. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 15:31
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Hmm, interesting. Think I'll drop compomotive an email then, cheers________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 16:00
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Glad to hear the rusty piece of crap is being sorted. Great idea to put the interior back in before doing the sills, it'll burn nicely, the way it should  Still can't believe you talked me into that trip. 7 hours of my life i'll not get back. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 00:31
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro  Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
Post #32
adam, you admit to being part of this..... Mei get it done so I can bring you my 205 to get restored please!!!________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 00:34
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #33
I dumped it in gloucester, that's all. Best place for it - not enough metal left for the baked bean can factory ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 07:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Fuel tank ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 08:56
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Great project Mei. I do have soft spot for the old ZX. My dad had a 5 door 'reflex' poverty model. It was a right work horse. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 20:30
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Great write up and pics LOL at the comedy profile 195/65 tyres,thats what size my winter tyres are currently on the Rallye......  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 09:37
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Well they rubbed through the paint on lock so i wouldnt advise it  Mind itll only affect you one way  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 11:20
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #38
welshpug! wrote: Well they rubbed through the paint on lock so i wouldnt advise it Mind itll only affect you one way They don't catch anywhere on the Rallye Even hard on right hand lock  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 13:37
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thegatekeeper
Regular  Location: Oldbury M5, J2 Registered: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 111 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Awesome project ________________________________________ GTi6 - 164.6bhp @ 6300rpm and 152.3ft-lbs Torque @ 3650rpmAudio - Alpine ida-x313 HU, Sony XM-2002 Amp powering a Hi-Fonics Titan TXi12S4 Subwooder, with Alpine SPG-17CS components powered by a Ground Zero GZIA2130HPX Amp |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 14:10
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #40
davewagon wrote: Where does all the insane knowledge on part numbers, sizes differences between Peugeot motors then? Been gobbling up Haynes manuals ? Have you not seen Rain Man   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 14:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #41
aahhh, ZX runs more camber.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Nov 2012 at 14:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Done naff all for a little while again, but today got a fair chunk achieved.I'd removed the driveshaft nuts a few weeks back, so to get the shafts out was easy enough, wheel off bottom balljoint removed and shaft pulled out, drained the oil whilst faffing about supporting the RHS of the car (it's on a slight slope which makes everything a PITA, and a bit dodgy  ) undid the two 11mm nuts on the Intermediate driveshaft bearing carrier and whipped that shaft out, oh the wonders of working on a car you've already had apart, no seized bolts!Bought some ratchet straps, only girly ghey ass skinny ones, but they were all I could find and be bothered to hunt for, slung a 2" dia bar resting on some wood across the bay and popped both straps around the engine.  Undid the downpipe to manifold 10mm's, then removed the LHS engine/transmission mounting and cradle. Marked up the clutch arm+shaft, removed the wiring support bracket, popped the clutch arm off then the starter motor.  removed the remaining bolts, pulled the box off the engine.   So at the mo its sat on a trolley jack and two engine mountings with a T-bar stopping it swinging forwards, waiting to be whipped out which I might do later with a hand off my brother. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Nov 2012 at 16:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Engine oot! nearly the end for the black car  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Nov 2012 at 21:06
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eddiebeano
Senior User  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
Post #44
welshpug! wrote: And that's it really to date. Got these last week though...   nice wheels, Ive just picked a set up although with standard bolt holes, 8x15 et 25. I'm running 15mm hubcentrics bringing the offset down to 10, and they seem to fit fine, albeit very tightly! http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=195&aspect=55&diameter=15&wheelwidth=7&offset=15&width2=195&aspect2=55&diameter2=15&wheelwidth2=8&offset2=10&Submit=Submit ________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 8th Nov 2012 at 13:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #45
they are standard holes, just missing the inserts  how much space have you got to the inner arch and the front strut? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Nov 2012 at 14:29
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #46
sorry to hijack but theres approx 5mm between rim and strut |
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Posted 8th Nov 2012 at 20:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #47
not a prob, gives me an idea into how close those beasty wheels will be, I'll have a bit more space than that on the inner side, about 15mm or so space roughly, what's your clearance like to the outside?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2012 at 17:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #48
More done today.One engine in the back of the trusty 405, its been in here before, about 5 years ago!  Set the height roughly on the crane, reverse the car up to it, pop a bolt through the D-shackle  Take up the tension with a ratchet, drive the car forwards!  Shift it into the garage out of the way, pop the gearbox on.  Lower the car on the jack, swing+shove the engine into the bay, jack the car up enough to get the LH mounting bracket on the chassis leg.  Take the car back up with the jack, fit the LH rubber mounting, wind the crane down till the RH arm is sitting over the mounting and taking the weight of the engine, shift the crane out of the way and pop the car back on the axle stands. Dropped the slam panel on out of the way.  Got the RH driveshaft in and secure, main long gear rod from the base of the stick in (its different on the RS engine to clear the cat+downpipe) fitted the gear rods, starter motor in place, PAS pump and alternator bolted on, for some reason the AUX belt sems too short, but I haven't tried the one from the black car, might be that the RFS crank pulley is larger, forgot to check this. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2012 at 17:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Someone on the CXOC asked what the spec was, might as well paste it here too.RFS engine, Newmans PH2 cams, Piston valve cutouts deepened by 1mm, standard MLS HG, minimal skim when original HG failed, should be circa 180 maybe Standard exhaust, using RFS downpipe from gti6/ phase1 xsara vts. Running full RFS cooling system other than ZX TD cooling fan. RFS wiring loom+ecu from 306 gti6 mated to original ZX engine loom multiplug RFS main gear rod from gearstick, Pugracing gear linkages. Xsara VTS gearbox, purely because the original was tired, Xsara VTS large Dia hollow shafts, as per gearbox! 283mm front brakes, o.e pads, standard rears, o.e pads, pugracing braided brake lines, short rear brake hose delete (plumbed up fully solid along trailing arm, as per later cars, 306/xsara) AST Sportline 1 front coilovers, 185 LB/in springs, 23mm Rear Torsion bars, Koni Yellow dampers, std ARB's. Partner/berlingo Rear wishbone P-bushes, the alloy ones with the round bush. Standard 2.4 turn steering rack. Rolling on Citroen C5 Alloy wheels inc spare, wrapped with either Michelin PE2 or Alpin A3's. Stock Kerb weight is 1140kg, so would be around 1100 with the C5 wheels and Michelins. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2012 at 19:12
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #50
 looking good. Especially like how clean that gearbox is. ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 10th Nov 2012 at 19:21
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