Post #26
Well it is a properly unlocked ECU which came with the new rallye as the guy fort he had locked his which I don't think it is locked, the ECU came from pug racing, the unlocked one works fine in my other rallye whith out disabling the transponder ox
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 tony1991
Regular  Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 3rd Nov 2012 at 20:40
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Just lol, was thinking it sounded distinctly immobilised, good shout welshy.  ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 04:08
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #28
tony1991 wrote: It almost wants to go but just not quite thinking timing may be a little bit out This sentence makes me think that's it not a case of a locked ECU. If it was locked, there would be no sign whatsoever of an engine wanting to fire up because there would be no spark available. The fact that it sounds like it wants to fire tells me it's either a cam sensor fault (given that you've tried a crank sensor already) or the cam timing is out.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 09:42
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bas_306gti
Regular  Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #29
But his fuel pump doesn't work, if the cam sensor was defect the fuel pump would run upon startup |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 10:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #30
should still start afaik without cam sensor, just not on sequential injection.crank is a different matter. does the fuel pump fire up when you crank it? do you have spark? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 10:59
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Until the OP tests whether or not he has a spark this thread is pretty much useless as it could be any number of things...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 13:07
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #32
He said on page 1 no spark. Suggest new plugs for a start given the others are described as corroded.________________________________________ I'm Si btwNight Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 13:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #33
you'll still get a spark from the coilpack.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 13:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #34
There has to be a spark though if what he's saying about the engine almost starting is true. If a spark wasn't present the engine would just turn over with no indication it was going to fire at all.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 13:22
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #35
welshpug! wrote: you'll still get a spark from the coilpack. Yes I know but the knackered plugs aren't going to help anything! ________________________________________ I'm Si btwNight Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 13:28
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I will try get back from work tomorrow early an try new plugs, the bit I don't get is the fuel pump not purging on the turn of the key, but works with 12v directly to it |
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Posted 4th Nov 2012 at 16:54
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I have tried crank sensor , cam sensor and still nothing, after speaking with a friend if fuel is cut of then I will not get a spark so this morning fitted new cut of switch but still nothing, where is the second cut off? . I'm really confused with this now |
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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 12:40
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,639 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Have you tried the relay unit thing that sits on the back of the battery/ecu box?________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 13:00
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Yer changed that with the one in my other rallye |
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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 13:39
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Yer changed that with the one in my other rallye |
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Posted 11th Nov 2012 at 13:39
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Right after a long long think and reading, I think it may be the Imboilisor can I just unplug and remove the metal part of key would this work? |
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Posted 17th Nov 2012 at 20:26
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #42
No, besides which using the unlocked ECU will bypass the immobiliser anyway.Daft question, but have you checked all the fuses? ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 17th Nov 2012 at 20:50
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Have you checked the earths on the gear box ? There are 2 sets of earths ? My money is on earth problem here ? Follow the earth from the battery to the gear box then just in front of that should be another pair of earths ? If you don't know what your looking at then you need to get someone who does bud  |
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Posted 17th Nov 2012 at 21:27
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Earth was my next step after reading up on this, I agree I will try a few more bits then I need to have some one look at it but unfortunately I can't afford that till after Christmas Il just see what happens but I'm not going to waste to much more time trying |
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Posted 17th Nov 2012 at 21:46
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t-rex
Newbie  Location: Middlesbrough Registered: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 44 Status: Offline |
Post #45
when you find the problem please post on here as i have the same problem exactly with my s16 |
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Posted 18th Nov 2012 at 15:42
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #46
if the heads been off to get new stem seals then i suppose theres a chance that the timing hasnt been set properly, although if it was that far out you'd hear valve to piston contact |
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Posted 19th Nov 2012 at 13:43
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Back to looking at my car over the last week, still not got it running after almost selling it, forgive me for what I think is a silly question if the timing was out would it stop the fuel and the sparks as I'm getting no fuel purge or a sparkI |
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Posted 12th Feb 2013 at 20:27
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #48
So abit of a update, I sent the car to auto elec and we have it running but at 5000 rpm and he can't read the ECU for any faults he tells me the ECU is f**ked ( this is the one one my running car ) so I took the original one that was in that car up to him once again he said it f**ked cant read any fault. So he said we could send it off to be tested But I have had these both in my working Rallye and run fine What are your forts guys |
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Posted 16th Mar 2013 at 11:28
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #49
The ECU's in these cars only respond to proper Magneti Marelli or Peugeot diagnostic equipment, and a small number of others.A generic OBD reader won't read them. High RPM idle suggests an air leak or an issue with the ICV. ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 16th Mar 2013 at 11:49
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Well I'm going to pick up a new icv and I will fit a new inlet gasket as the one on there is not the best I also didn't have a air box on it which I now have here ready to fit do you think that would make it rev that high |
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Posted 16th Mar 2013 at 12:22
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