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 stuart638
Regular  Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
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A question for all you 306 guru's!I've trawled through old threads but can't find the answer to this one. Are the driveshafts on the gti6 interchangeable between near & off side? By that, I mean if I were to take a nearside shaft and remove the inner CV cup, would it then fit into the CV cup on the extended off side shaft? Thanks in advance! Stu |
 Posted 1st Oct 2012 at 17:13
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I've never tried it myself Stuart, but I can't see any reason why not...However, why would you want to put a short driveshaft on the offside which requires the extended version?  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 1st Oct 2012 at 19:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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CV's are the same, however I have never compared the shafts to see if they are the same length.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Oct 2012 at 20:03
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: I've never tried it myself Stuart, but I can't see any reason why not... However, why would you want to put a short driveshaft on the offside which requires the extended version? It's basically so that I only need to carry one type as spares when I go racing. I've never broke the extended part of the long shaft, but I have broke a few CVs and snapped a couple if shafts. So, I figured why buy the long shafts when I don't need all of it! |
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Posted 1st Oct 2012 at 21:18
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #5
welshpug! wrote: CV's are the same, however I have never compared the shafts to see if they are the same length. Essentially it's the length of the two shafts I would need to know |
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Posted 1st Oct 2012 at 21:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #6
stuart638 wrote: So, I figured why buy the long shafts when I don't need all of it! Whilst this is true, is it not easier (and quicker when at the track) to change the whole thing rather than start stripping shafts apart to replace one bit of it? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 07:34
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Damn right, costs a few quid for a second-hand pair of shafts. Why even bother ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 08:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: Damn right, costs a few quid for a second-hand pair of shafts. Why even bother This was my thinking on the subject.  Surely you would want to get the car repaired as quickly as possible to be able to get back out for the next race.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 10:22
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: stuart638 wrote: So, I figured why buy the long shafts when I don't need all of it! Whilst this is true, is it not easier (and quicker when at the track) to change the whole thing rather than start stripping shafts apart to replace one bit of it? It actually takes longer to change the whole thing though. ie. Drain trans fluid, undo the hockey stick bolts, refill trans fluid. All of which on my car are a pain in the arse! If I leave the extended part in place, all I would need to do is remove the halfshaft from the CV cup, pop the new one in and secure the CV boot. Job done.  |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 12:23
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #10
owain wrote: Damn right, costs a few quid for a second-hand pair of shafts. Why even bother I've gone through too many secondhand shafts of unknown condition! I think new genuine maybe the answer, but they are bloody expensive. Failing that proper motorsport ones  |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 12:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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stuart638 wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: stuart638 wrote: So, I figured why buy the long shafts when I don't need all of it! Whilst this is true, is it not easier (and quicker when at the track) to change the whole thing rather than start stripping shafts apart to replace one bit of it? It actually takes longer to change the whole thing though. ie. Drain trans fluid, undo the hockey stick bolts, refill trans fluid. All of which on my car are a pain in the arse! If I leave the extended part in place, all I would need to do is remove the halfshaft from the CV cup, pop the new one in and secure the CV boot. Job done. Now I see the reasoning for your question... Yes, that would appear to be the better solution IF the shafts are the same length. Genuine shafts would be better quality, no doubt about that but as you say they cost a fortune! ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 14:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
no need to drain fluid, just jack it up on one side!more of a PITA fecking about with CV grease and boots. if the inner CV goes, it usually wrecks the cup, so you need to fit the whole shaft anyway... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 14:50
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I can see the argument for both sides, draining and refilling g/box oil can be annoying, however messing with CV joints has to be one of the worst jobs out there and I *hate* doing them. I think I would prefer the whole shaft replacement out of the two...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:08
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: no need to drain fluid, just jack it up on one side! more of a PITA fecking about with CV grease and boots. if the inner CV goes, it usually wrecks the cup, so you need to fit the whole shaft anyway... That might be the answer then. I must admit, when the car comes into the pits its normally just jacked straight up and put onto four axle stands, sump guard off .... etc. I've always thought the oil would still come out even when jacked on one side. I'll have to give it a go. I don't recall ever breaking an inner CV on the long side, but I take your point if I did. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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standard Clarke 3 ton jack up to max = no oil spillage  if its outer CV's then yes they can be changed very easily, no need to split the inner joint at all. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:41
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #16
You wanna get yourself one of these bad boys, see if you can fit some kind of quick-release clips to it. Just make sure the driver's strapped in properly.  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:42
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Remove the Big-Gulps from the cup holders to or it gets messy, not to mention oil from engine and fuel from tank, battery, washers, power-steering...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:44
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #18
stan_306gti6 wrote: I can see the argument for both sides, draining and refilling g/box oil can be annoying, however messing with CV joints has to be one of the worst jobs out there and I *hate* doing them. I think I would prefer the whole shaft replacement out of the two... I agree, CV joints can be messy, but with gloves, plenty of rags and brake cleaner, we seem to keep reasonably clean. As I said, refilling my box is a pain and pretty long winded. I can only really access it with a thin tube. It's not a standard GTI6 gearbox now that fills from the end (in fact the car isn't a 306 anymore!), but the shafts, subframe and hubs are. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:48
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #19
I'm not saying there wouldn't be an element of preparation required, just that it'd be probably the most legendary pit-stop of all time. Bit of electrical tape holding the oil cap on, all good. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:48
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #20
owain wrote: I'm not saying there wouldn't be an element of preparation required, just that it'd be probably the most legendary pit-stop of all time. Bit of electrical tape holding the oil cap on, all good. You need to come a crew for me Thinking outside of the box |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 15:51
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Have you thought about using an air jack for some jobs? You can chuck this huge "bag" under the car and attach the tube which comes off it to the exhaust outlet. Run the engine and the bag expands and lifts the car off the floor...You could always attach it to the exhaust of another vehicle if you were working on the engine of yours. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 16:50
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #22
3ton jack with quick lift would be quicker ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 16:59
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stuart638
Regular Location: Faversham Registered: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 201 Status: Offline |
Post #23
welshpug! wrote: 3ton jack with quick lift would be quicker |
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Posted 2nd Oct 2012 at 17:01
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I have a 3 tonne "Rocket" lift jack that seems to work quite well.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2012 at 06:42
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: You can chuck this huge "bag" under the car and attach the tube which comes off it to the exhaust outlet. Run the engine and the bag expands and lifts the car off the floor... Or just stuff the Hindenburg under your car for a similar effect? No smoking whilst in the pits though, okay? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2012 at 07:51
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