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Author Subject: Timing?
speedo306

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Post #1
My engine was timed over after replacing my water pump only to drive the car and realise it has lost power I mash to accelerate and the car goes nowhere. What can be causing this problem?

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 00:26
daveyboy

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Post #2
Cam timing could be off, but first is it running on all four cylinders?

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 00:38
speedo306

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I'm not sure if it is running on all four it pretty much feels like it. I am burning alot of gas. I have to mash right down on the accelerator and still the power is sluggish.

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 00:56
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Sounds like the inlet cam could be retarded, do you know if was it pinned correctly when the belt was done?

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 01:00
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I have a similar issue with my 205, I ran the engine and popped off each lead one at a time to see which cylinder wasn't running, then checked the fuel injectors to see if it was a fuel or spark problem. However, water pump replaced, my money is on the timing being out.
I'd get it sorted asap, isnt great to be running your motor with the timing to cock.
I've got to do my cam belt soon. Not looking forward to that one.

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 01:04
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GTI-6 wrote:
I've got to do my cam belt soon. Not looking forward to that one.


They're not that hard to do, except if the engine is in a 205 where space is then very limited. Yes

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 07:25
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Sounds abit like the lambda is at fault?

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 07:54
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swiftyboi006 wrote:
Sounds abit like the lambda is at fault?


Possibly, but due to the timing belt being removed and refitted I would check that the timing is correct first before going down the route of buying sensors. Yes

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Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 10:22
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
GTI-6 wrote:
I've got to do my cam belt soon. Not looking forward to that one.


They're not that hard to do, except if the engine is in a 205 where space is then very limited. Yes


Load'sa room! LOL

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  • Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 10:27
    stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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    Post #10
    LOL

    Ok, well there's a lot LESS space on the 205 than 306 then. Razz

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    Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 11:31
    dangti6

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    My biggest space issue is the rad having to be lowered and the bonnet bracing being chopped about in order to shut with the bodies and filter fitted LOL

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  • Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 11:35
    welshpug!

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    Post #12
    thought you had a decent inlet manifold?

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    Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 11:50
    dangti6

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    Post #13
    It's a Colin Satchell one.

    With the filter added it's right over the front bracing. Not an issue as I don't have a standard catch. But it was leaving the old filter squashed so I removed some bracing. Rad wise - It was restricting air flow and tight up against the filter pushing in on it slightly towards the top in the standard position so I lowered it below the filter line.

    Angle of the manifold and filter:

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  • Posted 27th Sep 2012 at 12:01
    eliotrw

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    Post #14
    Nice car Dan (Jealous)

    Side note: since having the head rebuilt (and car re timed) the power delivery is sooooo much better, i remember welshpug mentioning that they shouldnt "kick" at 4krpm and this is know 100% true. Very smooth now and theres decent power from 2.5k ish Smile

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    Posted 28th Sep 2012 at 09:08
    welshpug!

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    even better if you tweak it forwards a bit Wink

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    Posted 28th Sep 2012 at 09:49
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    Post #16
    welshpug! wrote:
    even better if you tweak it forwards a bit Wink


    I wouldn't want to go too far with it though to be honest given the running clearances are slim to start with. Wink

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    Posted 28th Sep 2012 at 11:58
    eliotrw

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    Cars been skimmed too anywho

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    Posted 28th Sep 2012 at 12:00
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    Post #18
    A few people have tried doing it and found positive results but no-one really has a concrete figure on what's the safe limit before destruction. Wink

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