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mattgti6phase2

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Just in thought process at the moment. I'm in two minds what to do with the 6 next, I have two choices that I'm currently thinking of.

Either cams and a remap although I'm not sure of which cams to purchase or TD pro race 1.2's. both have advantages. Wheels being less weight so a bit more bhp/tonne of un sprung weight or just more power with cams and remap. I should have about 1k to play with.

Thoughts? Many thanks.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:11
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I would sort the brakes and suspension out before looking for more power, thats what I am doing anyway.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:19
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Have you already a good spec with suspension?

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:20
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Damn jorg that was quick Laugh my ass off

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:20
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mattgti6phase2

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One of the first things i sorted was the suspension Yes and correct me if im wrong but the std brakes will handle a fair bit more than standard power??

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:49
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Yep on the brakes, but good pads, fluid and braided lines makes alot of difference
Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 14:03
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Course some good pads will handle 200bhp. Cams and a remap in my eyes is pointless because if you choose to do any moremods you need to remap again so maybe save for some second hand tb's then do it all at once?

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 14:07
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It depends what you want from the car really, if your thinking of getting it on track I'd go with lighter wheels and some brake or suspension upgrades. If your wanting to have a better chance against some of these newer hatches in a straight line on a road then go for more power.

People always say brakes and handling first and for the track I'd agree, on the road on the other hand if you are pushing a 6 on the limits of the brakes or the grip around corners then you are already going plenty fast enough for public roads imo so upgrading is not really needed

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 14:53
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mattgti6phase2

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Cheers guys.

As said the suspension i have is pretty damn good and every suspension component has been replaced in my ownership so I'm happy on that front. The brakes are running better pads and quality discs. She weighs in at 1100kg so it's quicker than a standard 6. Lightened flywheel full AC removal, full stainless with decat and a cotton filter etc etc so i guess now i just want a little bit more from her as we all know you could have 500bhp but we always crave more.

As for the wheels it'll make it lighter again so a bit quicker, with the cams and a remap more power but as a gain pound for pound which is the best option that you guys think would be most beneficial?

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 15:24
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For the minimal difference the wheels will make (plus I don't like 1.2's) I'd go for the noticeable cams and remap. Smile

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 15:26
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It's not how fast you go. It's how you go fast Wink

The c5 steels/alloys are about the lightest wheel you could fit, if I'm correct

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 15:49
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Unless your going the whole hog and stripping it I can't imagine that lighter wheels will make any noticeable difference. Better off with more poke and sticky tires I reckon.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 15:58
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mattgti6phase2

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aaron6 wrote:
Unless your going the whole hog and stripping it I can't imagine that lighter wheels will make any noticeable difference. Better off with more poke and sticky tires I reckon.


I've stripped literally everything i can whilst retaining the seats for my little man. I think cams it is then I like clones but i do like TD 1.2's Yes

Changing wheels was just an idea i should have about 1k to waste. I imagine that'd cover cams remap and labour.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 16:43
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So youve stripped everything apart from the seats? Is this not a pointless exersiseDunno

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 17:03
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mattgti6phase2

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swiftyboi006 wrote:
So youve stripped everything apart from the seats? Is this not a pointless exersiseDunno


Not entirely. The back seats weigh F all. And it's still weighing 1100kg Yes

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 17:12
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7057sam

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Post #16
Get some pt81.think roland had the china on them and chip wizard remap pushing 193bhp.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 17:19
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PT81's or the equivalent Cat Cams will give you around the 190bhp figure, maybe slightly more. If it was a choice out of the two I would go for cams over wheels. Yes

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 18:53
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mattgti6phase2

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Don't the pt81s runny silly close though Stan?

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 19:18
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I've got some pro race 1.2s for sale Smile

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 20:27
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7057sam

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I've heard if your head as been skimmed they don't fit.

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 22:38
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swiftyboi006

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Skimmed heads just need a rich w repair gasket as there .2mm thicker

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 23:10
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bigbadbowen

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7057sam wrote:
I've heard if your head as been skimmed they don't fit.



Again get an engine builder to advise build your engine Thumbs up
Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 23:37
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Don't the pt81s runny silly close though Stan?


They do, but plenty of people have fitted them. Yes

Head thickness is a consideration, and as has been stated you can buy a thicker gasket to compensate for this.
If you're worried about the running clearances then go for Cat Cams, these seem to be the most popular option out there at the moment. Smile

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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 07:09
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mattgti6phase2

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It's not something I'm going to rush into but pt81's would be ideal. As far as I'm aware my car has never had a head skim. As you say Stan for peace of mind a thicker head gasket would probably be the safest option.

I'd love to charge the bloody thing and be done with it but my budget will not stretch that far No

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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 07:28
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The supercharger conversion is the best pound for pound power mod out there at the moment for the gain that you receive. The only problem is that it has a large outlay at the beginning. Yes

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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 08:42
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