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davewagon

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Okay, so it seems that a flashing airbag light is gonna cost me my MOT tomorrow...

My seats were replaced once upon a time and when that was done the pre tensioner connector bit was soldered for good measure.

So its flashing now, and only started doing this when the battery went completely flat one time (totally flat, no clock or radio code etc).

Carl (mech repairs) once mentioned that the little key barrel where you turn the passenger airbag off can cause this, by the connection wearing out or some s**t, and that it can be pulled out and replaced with another which might solve the flashing. Dunno

Can anyone else confirm this, and how do you get the bloody panel out, I can't see anything to grip onto or unscrew or what?

Otherwise, what else could it be if the pre tensioner connector is theoretically fine, I'm pretty sure it only started occurring when the battery ran flat and needed jumping.

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 20:20
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Wouldn't be a blown fuse on the pretentioner circuit would it ?
Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 21:38
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A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 21:43
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I lengthened the wires and crimped spade connectors on mine but if I move te drivers side seat forward it'll flash every now and then. All I do is stick my hand under the seat and fiddle a bit, turn the engine off and back on and its all good!
Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 21:53
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t3ora wrote:
A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise


Depends on the tester. If he's feeling particularly c**tish, he will fail it. I've seen MOT fails for some really ridiculous things in the past

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 22:15
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davewagon

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I suppose I'll find out tomorrow!

I was mainly curious if anyone had ever come across the fix mentioned in my OP?

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 22:27
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If it helps i have noticed that the keys can trigger themselves
Mine went on mid journey a while back and i figured something would be at fault
In the end deepak was like "it was turned off :p" lol

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 22:37
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That Pannel just pulls out bud get a screwdriver in the side and lever it out. Have you had a look at the soldered joints they may have been badly done and broken ? Have you tried turning the passenger airbag on and off to see if it sorts the problem ?

I think the phase 3 seats have an earth that sometimes needs sorting as well under the seat ? Pretty sure I have seen an earth just not sure where it goes to in the seat?

Could just pop the bulb out for the mot if you think he will fail it. Or put your phone in there that should cover it Big grin
Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 22:48
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asim_pug306 wrote:
t3ora wrote:
A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise


Depends on the tester. If he's feeling particularly c**tish, he will fail it. I've seen MOT fails for some really ridiculous things in the past


i am a tester and its not a fail

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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 23:20
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I need to sort this on mine as I have phase 1 seats in now. What wires under the seat do I solder to where?, I thought a resistor was needed?

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 00:34
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I need to sort this on mine as I have phase 1 seats in now. What wires under the seat do I solder to where?, I thought a resistor was needed?


its was mentioned in a post last week sometime, iirc it was a 1.3ohm resister and use it to link the two air bag wires

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 00:42
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i stand corrected 1.8ohm

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=150522

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 00:44
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Thanks you very much

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t3ora wrote:
A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise


So this info on this site below did not come in?Dunno

http://uk.autoblog.com/2012/01/04/changes-to-mot-rules-in-2012-are-you-ready/

asim_pug306 wrote:
t3ora wrote:
A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise


Depends on the tester. If he's feeling particularly c**tish, he will fail it. I've seen MOT fails for some really ridiculous things in the past


Can only fail MOT on the things stated in the MOT test,testers can't just make things up to fail a car!!LOL

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 08:20
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So this info on this site below did not come in?


My tester told me this was changed to an advisory at the last minute, the intention was always for it to be a fail but it never happened.

However, I also read another article which said about that only being from January to April 2012 as a grace period, after that it'd be a fail? However I only saw that once so fairly sure it's not true.

coskev wrote:
Can only fail MOT on the things stated in the MOT test,testers can't just make things up to fail a car!!


In theory yes, but if the mechanic presses the button for "airbag fail", then it's a fail. No going back, you can't undo a failed test, it's just a fail. You can argue it out with the garage if you like, but MOT testers are rarely willing to be talked into admitting mistakes and re-doing the entire test for free. You'd basically have to complain to trading standards or VOSA or whoever, and go through the whole malarkey there.

Would be easier to just take it to another garage and hope for a better tester Yes

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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 08:32
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Well it didn't fail for a flashing airbag light,

It failed on many other points though haha!

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Posted 17th Sep 2012 at 08:04
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Yeah a resistor isn't going to fix your faulty brakes or bald tyres LOL

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Bald tyres were an advisory (just) - but i'll sort them soon

Left rear calliper doesn't respond to handbrake cable, snapped droplink and both sidelight bulbs have popped.

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Posted 17th Sep 2012 at 08:19
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You didn't notice a snapped droplink before an MOT? Did you even give it a once-over? LOL

"Erm yes, we did the MOT but it appears you only have three wheels. Was the back of the car not scraping along the road as you drove here sir?"

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Posted 17th Sep 2012 at 08:21
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Lol, funnily enough i did notice it, even had the parts bought ready to fit,

just didnt get round to replacing them (it hardly made any difference having a snapped one) (sorted that yesterday though)

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davewagon wrote:
it hardly made any difference having a snapped one


Tell that to your MOT tester Wink

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Posted 17th Sep 2012 at 09:03
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t3ora wrote:
asim_pug306 wrote:
t3ora wrote:
A airbag light is not a MOT fail just a advise


Depends on the tester. If he's feeling particularly c**tish, he will fail it. I've seen MOT fails for some really ridiculous things in the past


i am a tester and its not a fail


Here in Luxembourg it is an immediate fail Yes Guess you Fellas are not such aholes like the testers here who think they are everything because they are employed by the government. Roll eyes
Posted 17th Sep 2012 at 10:05
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owain wrote:
coskev wrote:
So this info on this site below did not come in?


My tester told me this was changed to an advisory at the last minute, the intention was always for it to be a fail but it never happened.

However, I also read another article which said about that only being from January to April 2012 as a grace period, after that it'd be a fail? However I only saw that once so fairly sure it's not true.

coskev wrote:
Can only fail MOT on the things stated in the MOT test,testers can't just make things up to fail a car!!


In theory yes, but if the mechanic presses the button for "airbag fail", then it's a fail. No going back, you can't undo a failed test, it's just a fail. You can argue it out with the garage if you like, but MOT testers are rarely willing to be talked into admitting mistakes and re-doing the entire test for free. You'd basically have to complain to trading standards or VOSA or whoever, and go through the whole malarkey there.

Would be easier to just take it to another garage and hope for a better tester Yes


Not sure you can take a car to another garage now can you with it being on a data base?Dunno

It will show up its just failed at another garage surely?Dunno

Ref the failing,the tester would soon back track if you mention getting on to VOSA about itYes

VOSA are strict on testers.

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Posted 21st Sep 2012 at 09:11
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Not sure you can take a car to another garage now can you with it being on a data base?


Yeah it's no problem, not sure garages can even see previous MOT results. The test is meant to be a full, standalone test - if it passes, it passes. If it fails, the test must be re-done in its entirety.

As far as I know, there's no concept of a test being in any way affected by previous tests. It doesn't matter if your old MOT expired, you previously failed, you only passed one the day before - if you pass a test that's it, you have an MOT. If you fail, you no longer have an MOT.

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Posted 21st Sep 2012 at 09:18
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