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Astra VXR round here in Luton! 
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 banksey
Seasoned Pro  Location: Middlesbrough / Luton Registered: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 7,039 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 17:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 18:03
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phil b
Seasoned Pro  Location: Market Drayton Registered: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 3,090 Status: Offline |
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1.0 micrarse, low n behold after I passed my test the Cnut bought a hot hatch.... Mind the micra was still a beast compared to my 1.1 mk3 festa________________________________________ '97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'194.2bhp 127.6 dB '96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage) '94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried) '99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again) The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday Skip Brown cars: tarporley Cheshire Tel: 01829 720492 add me --> philbrindley85@hotmail.com TEAM: Snapper  |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 18:35
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car  ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 18:58
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spitfire
Regular  Location: Leighton Buzzard Registered: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 365 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. I have to say I disagree, my dad is a driving instructor and I think he has it right. Whatever you pay for the car, it is a tool for the job and so you have to pay it off before you start making any money, don't forget the car is going to depreciate too. As a driving instructor ideally you need a new and reliable car under warrenty so bills don't mount up if stuff fails. Take into account the wheels and tyres get ruined on kirbs, clutches go this is wear and tare for a driving school car., car gets knocks and scrapes as other motorists are not patient with learner drivers. So there is no point in having a fast/flash motor it just eats into your profits. The best option is a nearly new cat D repaired (works out like a half price car). To attract customers you can then afford to offer a slightly lower price and still see higher profits than most. As a teenager I'd go with the cheaper option especially as the instructor is not going to let you rag his car. ________________________________________ If you aint first, your last! |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 19:07
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AndyJ
Seasoned Pro  Location: Birmingham Registered: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 5,894 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I passed the first two parts of the driving instructors test (written and practical) when I was about twenty two. Short attention span, though, and I got bored.  I passed my normal test in a new corsa. Well, new in 1998, or whenever it was I passed. ________________________________________ For we are many.PS£ ID: Monkey369 |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 19:21
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #32
owain wrote: I know a couple of people who learned in older diesels, passed their tests then spent the next few weeks constantly stalling petrols as they thought all cars had that much torque low down. I think Ian's right - instructors can't afford to run two cars anymore, so whatever they teach in they have to drive themselves when they're not working. Extra insurance, fuel and maintenance must be a nightmare. Bigger tyres, servicing costs more, brakes cost more, very odd. they probably just pay less tax ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 21:09
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #33
ballardpaul wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car mine would be a nightmare to learn in ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 13th Sep 2012 at 21:11
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Ha a 17 yo would love a 6 paddle clutch to learn with. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 00:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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ballardpaul wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car  I don't think a learner driver would like the paddle clutch or the "throw you back in the seat" style of power delivery...in fact I think it would probably scar them for life.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 00:26
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duncant
Newbie  Location: Bristol Registered: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 29 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I had to suffer a Polo 1 litre when I was learning. My then girlfriend got taught in a Renault 5 turbo. I was jealous until I saw here actually trying to drive the thing as she never got the trick of the lag nor the sudden kick when at the wrong rpm on a roundabout. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 11:22
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: ballardpaul wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car I don't think a learner driver would like the paddle clutch or the "throw you back in the seat" style of power delivery...in fact I think it would probably scar them for life. Haha power is easy to get used to, but I don't think trying to pass the 3 point turn section in 6 would go well  ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 11:56
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Very true...The examiner would have to change the examination form from "3 point turn" to "7+ point turn". ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Sep 2012 at 13:00
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spike_uk06
Seasoned Pro  Location: Billingshurst Registered: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 1,637 Status: Offline |
Post #39
stan_306gti6 wrote: The examiner would have to change the examination form from "3 point turn" to "7+ point turn".  ________________________________________ Team ChinaTeam Pirelli Team Cracked Bumper 92k 20th Nov 1999 she was born |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 00:30
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: ballardpaul wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car I don't think a learner driver would like the paddle clutch or the "throw you back in the seat" style of power delivery...in fact I think it would probably scar them for life. then theres the lift off oversteer that can make u turn on a 2 pence piece..... if you know to expect it, if not, like a learner it would scare the s**t out of them, before they crashed ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 01:12
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
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daver6 wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: ballardpaul wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: barry.rs wrote: Good marketing in my view. 17 year old lad looking for a driving instructor has the choice between a 1 litre corsa or a hot hatch; which will he choose? I agree, and If I was a driving instructor it would be the view I would take. 450bhp 306 learner car I don't think a learner driver would like the paddle clutch or the "throw you back in the seat" style of power delivery...in fact I think it would probably scar them for life. Haha power is easy to get used to, but I don't think trying to pass the 3 point turn section in 6 would go well i did a 5 point turn in meadowhalls lower tier car park other day, while people queued waiting the embarrasment faded though when they pulled up at side of me and had the surprised look while pointing at the 330mm brembos to his mate ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 01:14
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: when they pulled up at side of me and had the surprised look while pointing at the 330mm brembos to his mate That is always a classic look I must admit. You can see what people are thinking when they're looking as well. "Either that bloke likes to stop quickly, or that car's running a lot of power" ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 09:40
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #43
I don't believe it ever was called a 3 point turn though, it was known as a multiple point turn, or turn in the road?Meh, you're f**ked in a 6 either way! I learned in a White 1.2 Renault Clio Phase 1 - it was quite handy for parallel parking as the two ends of the wiper were perfect references to turn to! I lost a few lessons though when his cambelt s**t himself, and got the feeling towards the end I was more than ready for test and he was milking me as business was slow. Then sods law had to wait AAAAGGGGESSS for the test once he sanctioned me booking it so rinsed me in the interim too. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 12:00
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dan_s16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cheltenham Registered: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,583 Status: Offline |
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I learnt to drive in a bright green Daewho Matiz, less than 800cc of pure 3 cylinder awesome crapness!Anything would have been better  ________________________________________ When I've got time I forget what I wanted to do, and when I remember what I wanted to do, I have no time! |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 12:54
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #45
1 lite old shape micro for me followed by a old shape Clio, was pretty embarrassing, If there had been a hot hatch instructor I would of jumped at him for lessons. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:22
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,878 Status: Offline |
Post #46
stan_306gti6 wrote: Very true... The examiner would have to change the examination form from "3 point turn" to "7+ point turn". they did it's called a turn in the road! where have you been for the last 10 years? ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 13:40
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #47
tvrfan007 wrote: I don't believe it ever was called a 3 point turn though, it was known as a multiple point turn, or turn in the road? Meh, you're f**ked in a 6 either way! I learned in a White 1.2 Renault Clio Phase 1 - it was quite handy for parallel parking as the two ends of the wiper were perfect references to turn to! I lost a few lessons though when his cambelt s**t himself, and got the feeling towards the end I was more than ready for test and he was milking me as business was slow. Then sods law had to wait AAAAGGGGESSS for the test once he sanctioned me booking it so rinsed me in the interim too. I had this too, he even put mine back a month as he changed his mind on our last lesson and thought I wasn't ready. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 15th Sep 2012 at 21:08
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I first started lessons at 17, i passed a theory test then i didnt bother taking it any further, i spent a couple of year on the p**s, then i got my head down to life and I did my theory test again as it had just expired and got a pretty cool instructor, he booked my practical test and then I had 5 lessons before the test day plus an hour before test. a lot of instructors now have days booked before they allocate them to there learners. Since then I did my direct access motorbike course and my class 2 hgv test, of which both I failed and passed on the second, due to nerves . ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 12:24
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jcphat
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the day room, Nurse! Registered: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,061 Status: Offline |
Post #49
1970, in Mum's Simca 1000. Awesome car had reclining seats-most important feature of a car for a 17 year old.________________________________________ New Forum same high quality intellectual debate!Team Zimmer™ |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 12:36
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #50
5 hours then passed test with 2 minors  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 12:46
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