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 owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #26
stan_306gti6 wrote: What happened to all those people who chose to go without, did their engines all boil themselves?  Only those who went high boost on their Model T Fords yo ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
 Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 13:22
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Matt_rallye
Regular  Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
Post #27
http://306oc.co.uk/forum/thread-4363.html?highlight=heater+matrixRuan knows his s**t, at a guess it would be the same for the '6 as you would be loosing a 1/3 of the cooling system |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 15:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #28
nope, he's wrong I'm afraid, if you bypass its fine, blocking the pipes is another matter.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 15:06
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #29
welshpug! wrote: nope, he's wrong I'm afraid, if you bypass its fine, blocking the pipes is another matter. ^^This.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 15:22
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Exactly. I bypassed mine ages ago and have done several trackdays since, never been above 90 degrees. Bypassing the matrix is not a problem. Blocking the holes I agree could be a bad idea, but as for bypassing it - how much heat does he think you lose by pumping water through a heater matrix with no air moving over it  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 15:28
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Does certainly make sence owain and how is a heater matrix 1/3 of the cooling system________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 17:56
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Blocked mine on 8 and 16v Pug engine's, never had a issue at all________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 18:03
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #33
miles wrote: Blocked mine on 8 and 16v Pug engine's, never had a issue at all Precisely.  /thread ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 18:09
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #34
quote: Ruan knows ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 20:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #35
So...Based on the above, what's the verdict then? Are you going to use Radweld or not? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 09:58
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I think wen i get the blowers going il try some, depending if im in the mood to take the dash out. If i can book a day off work then ill take the dash out. Anyone know how much a matrix is? And what one i would need? Air con been taken out p2________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 10:06
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Valeo for non-aircon, GSF for about £30 iirc. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 10:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Youll still need an aircon matrix unless someone swapped the heater box________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 10:57
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Behr then. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 10:58
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rallye1999
Senior User  Location: redcar Registered: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 717 Status: Offline |
Post #40
I've got a rallye heater box and year or two old matrix if needed |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 11:19
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Matt_rallye
Regular Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Well I stand corrected then lol |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 11:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #42
hole in the bulkhead and a lot of the wiring that is secured to the underside of the dash is also different, i.e don't bother ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 11:41
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #43
The old 'You need a Matrix thing' is only if you have a Mini (Proper one) and get stuck in traffic to keep the heat down, Other than that someone should point out to him that a Radiator is designed to cool coolant and the heater to heat the cabin ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 11:52
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #44
miles wrote: The old 'You need a Matrix thing' is only if you have a Mini (Proper one) and get stuck in traffic to keep the heat down, Other than that someone should point out to him that a Radiator is designed to cool coolant and the heater to heat the cabin Pretty much sums it up. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 15:35
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Made my mind up im going to try the rad weld as ive read up alot on it and seems to fix small leaks, if it doesnt work ill be doing the matrix properly.________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 18:03
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro  Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Hi Olly,I've used K-seal in the past. No issues... ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 18:10
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #47
K-seal? Is this everyday stuff that can be bought anywhere? Would you recommend this over rad weld?Cheers ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 18:26
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #48
K-seal is named after the K-series engine (supposedly). The "rad-weld will definitely gunk up your engine and kill it in a ball of fire" myth is complete bo***cks. The stuff has been around for a LONG time, which it wouldn't have been if it was as problematic as people think. People think it lines the entire cooling system and narrows it down slightly, which can block areas that are thin anyway. This is rubbish. It dilutes through your entire cooling system and when exposed to air at the point of the leak, it dries and seals the hole. the rest of it remains as a liquid until it either find another leak, or you flush it out. People *have* found it to completely block pipes, but if your cooling system has been bled properly you won't have the air bubbles in there that causes this. I don't know if K-seal works the same way, but it seems to be the more popular of these type of products, although it's more expensive off the shelf, but try eBay. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 18:55
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Just bought sum ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 19:28
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Make sure to follow the instructions properly. a lot of people just chuck it in without reading them. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 20:06
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