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 demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Put some fuel (~20L) into the track car earlier to find that the gauge didn't move, just thought it was very low on fuel when I bought it rather than there being a problem.Is it just a sensor I need to change? ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
 Posted 22nd Aug 2012 at 23:28
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Check the sender, its built into the fuel pump housing on Ph2 and 3's, and separate on Ph1's. You should check the resistance changes as you move the sender, or just make sure its not stuck. You could just move it by hand and see if the gauge moves too. If not, could be wiring or a dodgy dash.________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 22nd Aug 2012 at 23:46
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Taken the sender out and put a voltmeter across it; getting 10v (ish) to the sender. When running a bit of wire from the positive pin to any other pins, the gauge doesn't move on the dash.Any thoughts? ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 16:08
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Sounds like it could be a problem in the instrument panel then. However, 10v to me is a little low to start with.  Have you checked the resistance on the sender as you move the float arm? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 17:11
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Didn't have chance to pull the sender out today, but get to that during the week.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Aug 2012 at 21:15
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Ok, keep us posted on the result mate.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Aug 2012 at 15:31
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Slight update, replaced the pump unit with a second hand unit from Dan and still no gauge. Also noticed that the dash lights aren't working either.Am guessing there's a dodgy connection to the clocks so will be checking that out at the weekend. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 27th Dec 2012 at 19:03
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #8
demondriverdan wrote: Slight update, replaced the pump unit with a second hand unit from Dan and still no gauge. Also noticed that the dash lights aren't working either. Am guessing there's a dodgy connection to the clocks so will be checking that out at the weekend. Hope that just highlights dan as a bad seller. ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 27th Dec 2012 at 22:10
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Yep, deffo sounds like an instrument cluster problem.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Dec 2012 at 16:11
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Are there any issues with swapping instrument clusters from 1 car to the other? Thinking of quickly putting the cluster from the road car into the track car to see if that solves the problem. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 30th Dec 2012 at 11:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #11
demondriverdan wrote: Are there any issues with swapping instrument clusters from 1 car to the other? Thinking of quickly putting the cluster from the road car into the track car to see if that solves the problem. Nope, just swap them over. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Dec 2012 at 13:52
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #12
This problem is still a, errrr, problem? Did a bit more investigation over the weekend and the sender on the pump is working fine so there's another problem elsewhere. I've fixed the dash lights issue (no connection going between the pins on the dash dim plug) so I'm thinking there could be a bigger problem.When the ECU resets the fuel gauge needle moves and the light goes out (along with all the other needles) before returning to it's zero position. Could it be that the ECU believes there's no fuel in the tank and thus is sending that to the gauge? ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 24th Mar 2013 at 17:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #13
ecu has no connection with fuel gauge.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th Mar 2013 at 18:33
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Well there goes that plan! Is it the dash itself resetting then rather than the ECU (causing the dials to move)?Other options must be either a dodgy dash or broken wiring somewhere. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 24th Mar 2013 at 19:26
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Still a bit stumped as to what's causing this. Sender is outputting a value that changes based on position so that seems to be working fine.Does anyone have a diagram of the clock connectors so I can check what value is being sent to the clocks? See if it's the clocks broken or a bad connection somewhere. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 16th Jul 2013 at 15:02
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I appreciate the age of the thread so this is a long shot. Do your time clock, rev counter and mileage display work?If not, check fuse 25 I think it is. This has killed my fuel gauge off twice already in my Rallye. Regardless, wiring diagram are in the FAQ. I was looking at these previously. http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=134863 ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 12:16
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Fixed it in the end, turned out to be the clock unit was broken. Got a replacement set of clocks and the gauge works fine!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 12:46
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Good to hear they are all working  ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 13:30
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #19
tvrfan007 wrote: I appreciate the age of the thread so this is a long shot. Do your time clock, rev counter and mileage display work? If not, check fuse 25 I think it is. This has killed my fuel gauge off twice already in my Rallye. Regardless, wiring diagram are in the FAQ. I was looking at these previously. http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=134863 This is a very good call, saves you bags of time checking fuses first. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 19:17
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #20
On the old clocks everything was working except the fuel gauge and possibly odometer back light________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 19:25
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