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Author Subject: Gti-6 into 205 - What's needed?
Jake

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Hi all,

As the title suggests i'm looking at putting a Gti-6 engine into a 205 to run as a track car, but don't know which 205 should I buy, their is a 1.1 for sale close to me but don't know if it would be worth buying a 1.6gti or 1.9gti?
Already got my name on an engine Big grin so just need to find out what would be needed to convert it in order to put a cost together.

All help is much appreciated Thumbs up

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 19:57
fatlapit

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Any gti but 1.9 would be better. pretty much a weekend job. speak to miles off here or google pugracing. u will need a conversion loom and a reangled ex mani too. It drops in and the rest is easy. use the 205 gearbox jobs a fish

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 20:03
miles

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a 1.9 Gti is the best base as you have the running gear there, I have done a couple of 1.1 (Base models) with ultra low mileage but its allot more work, Fuel Lines, Tank, Beam, Front Subrame, Dampers, Dash etc, Arch issue's too unless you run different arch trims

but I stock everything for a plug & play conversion if needed

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 21:02
Jake

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Cheers fellas,

How much would a conversion kit cost if I were to buy a 1.9gti? Is their any other parts needed apart from the loom and exhaust manifold?

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 23:45
miles

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D/P, Lambda Boss, Alt Belt adjuster, Clutch Kit (Mi16 push), clutch arm (Poss) so quite a bit,
Cost wise drop me a PM please

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 03:06
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Moved to Engines. Smile

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 06:55
Jake

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Miles - PM'd Thumbs up

Could do with a 205 rolling shell if anyone has one or know someone who does?

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 21:13
eddy_gti6

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miles wrote:
D/P, Lambda Boss, Alt Belt adjuster, Clutch Kit (Mi16 push), clutch arm (Poss) so quite a bit,
Cost wise drop me a PM please


Hmm i wasnt expecting it to need so much. would easy get it done over a weekend tho, just need to find somewhere to do it as you lane in rocky as f*ck and my garage is too small LOL then again my back lane is perfect Thumbs up

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 21:20
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Don't underestimate the cost of service items and all the other small bits which are really worth doing at the same time. That's of course if you are going to do it properly.

Same old story with the SC conversions. Some people budget for the main off the shelf items and then get cold feet when the other costs raise their head.

Depends how 'reliable' you want to make it and whether you want to do it right once or revisit areas.

I'd personally budget a grand on bits and pieces.

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    eddy_gti6

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    Post #10
    I have the engine for him what me and him know is a solid engine, he just needs everything else. Will be serviced before it goes in.
    think this it just going to be a track to for him as he is selling the Evo Sad

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    Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 21:32
    Jake

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    Won't get it done in a weekend if I buy a 1.1! a lot to change by the looks of it. Can just do it out the back of mine, got a nice little spot for it where their is less rocks LOL

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    Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 21:34
    Jake

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    dangti6 wrote:
    Don't underestimate the cost of service items and all the other small bits which are really worth doing at the same time. That's of course if you are going to do it properly.

    Same old story with the SC conversions. Some people budget for the main off the shelf items and then get cold feet when the other costs raise their head.

    Depends how 'reliable' you want to make it and whether you want to do it right once or revisit areas.

    I'd personally budget a grand on bits and pieces.


    A grand for the bits to do which base car? A 1.9 gti?

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    Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 21:36
    miles

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    Replied but as said the extra's all add up quickly

    Cam Belt kit, Clutch Kit, Water Pipes, Lube's, Brakes, Air Filter, Gaskets, Downpipe and lambda boss etc

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    We now also carry out Routine Servicing
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    Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 22:41
    eddy_gti6

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    miles wrote:
    Replied but as said the extra's all add up quickly

    Cam Belt kit, Clutch Kit, Water Pipes, Lube's, Brakes, Air Filter, Gaskets, Downpipe and lambda boss etc


    will be worth it in the end tho Big grin

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    Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 23:02
    Jake

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    I'm set on it now, need somthing to challenge Eddy with on track Cool

    Just need to find a car to start with!

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    Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 12:16
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    i'm doing this at the moment. my 205 has ended up as a bare shell and other things have presented themselves LOL go figure

    total spend on top of buying the 205 and having the gti6 engine already = probably about a grand

    dangti6 is your man for this

    uprated lower mount, converted loom, lambda boss, reangled downpipe / manifold, stuff like belt and waterpump, thermostat adapter and gti alloy outlet, hoses, there's loads of things. and then you start finding other things and what's the point not doing them whilst the engine's out? LOL

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    Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 12:29
    jonnie205

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    Post #17
    Done loads of these, dont realy need the alloy top hose adaptor, shorten and reangle the std 205 downpipe, use the gti6 heater matrix hoses, std gti6 wiring loom which can be modded, run the loom through the NS of bay into fuse box, not in by pedal box. Cut rad cowling and tilt rad forward, gearbox and clutch, you can use push or pull with std 205 cable, you will need a rev counter adaptor and a oil pressure gaugue adaptor union.
    Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 12:52
    eddy_gti6

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    Post #18
    Jake wrote:
    I'm set on it now, need somthing to challenge Eddy with on track Cool

    Just need to find a car to start with!


    You have till the 15th sep to get sorted for knockhill jake! You know what you need now, get some parts in and we can get started Wink

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