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demondriverdan

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The Rallye has seemed down on power since the heater matrix pipe popped off. The fuel pump also makes an unusual groaning noise in the morning when it primes for the first time (i.e. first time I start the car that day).

Any ideas? Thought it might be the fuel pump based on the noise.

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 22:56
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demondriverdan wrote:
The Rallye has seemed down on power since the heater matrix pipe popped off. The fuel pump also makes an unusual groaning noise in the morning when it primes for the first time (i.e. first time I start the car that day).

Any ideas? Thought it might be the fuel pump based on the noise.


poss head gasket on way out... as pipe popped off causing engine to overheat... its happened to me on my dturbo mate

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:08
demondriverdan

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Hmmm, yea. It got to about 108c before I shut it off when the hose popped off, stop light wasn't on.

It's going into the garage tomorrow anyway to investigate a small power steering fluid leak so will ask them to have a look at the head as well. They reattached the hose so they know the situation.

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:13
demondriverdan

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Just been out and checked, no mayo on the rad cap. Will see what the garage says tomorrow.

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:34
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108oC isn't a dangerous temperature stage 1 fans are 97oC so i wouldn't say it was anywhere near hot enough to warp the head unless however it was running for long with no water Dunno

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 01:40
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110 is when the stop light comes on.

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 08:20
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One thing i think you need to remember is that if coolant is coming out, air is going in and if the thermostat housing gets empty the temp sensor cant get an accurate reading because there wouldnt be any coolant to measure the temp of.
Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 11:18
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Mine reached a high temperature once, for some reason the fan didn't kick in Crazy it reached right up to the red line before i noticed and drove off to cool it down, never had that problem since. No stop light for me.

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 11:23
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BlackSix wrote:
One thing i think you need to remember is that if coolant is coming out, air is going in and if the thermostat housing gets empty the temp sensor cant get an accurate reading because there wouldnt be any coolant to measure the temp of.
This is correct, it may have said 108c but it could have been alot hotter as it may not habe read accuratly

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 13:16
demondriverdan

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Cheers all. The garage are confident that it isn't the headgasket, tempted to get it in writing from them so that if anything happens soon-ish I might be protected (if that makes sense).

They've got the car until Monday to have a look over and find the issue.

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 17:46
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have they tried pressure testing the coolant system?
Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 17:52
demondriverdan

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They didn't when I was there. Will check to see if they have / are planning on doing it on Monday.

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 18:01
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Get a sniff test done as well to be sure. Yes

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 19:15
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 19:24
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When was the last time the fuel filter was changed? Unsure

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 22:34
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I believe the car was serviced around 2-3k miles ago when the engine went in, that's what yippeekaye said anyway!

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:46
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demondriverdan wrote:
I believe the car was serviced around 2-3k miles ago when the engine went in, that's what yippeekaye said anyway!


But did that service include a fuel filter though? Dunno

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:47
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I don't know tbh. I'd hope it did but can't say for certain. Will definitely be jacking it up and checking when I get the car back!

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:58
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Dan my fuel filter was also done 3k ago, looks shagged. Genuine pig filter going on mine.
Also if it's down on power it's worth checking the timing is still together, locknut up at bottom end and check the cams. I have a feeling mine was slightly out, and bottom pully had slipped round slightly. I know that your linking it to the heater pipe but you might have only just noticed it since its happened.
Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 11:37
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Garage says there's nothing wrong with the performance of the engine, diagnostics and a general inspection have come up ok. The only thing that they've found is that the throttle cable was a bit loose so wasn't giving full travel.

The aux belt tensioner is also very worn so they're replacing that. Roughly how much would people expect that to cost? They've given me a quote of £200 all in and worse case in terms of labour?

Not too keen on doing it myself, I like the road car to be looked after properly and I don't really have time.

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 11:23
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The fact that you weren't getting full throttle travel will have had something to do with why it felt sluggish. Yes

As for changing the aux belt tensioner, I would say the part probably costs around £50, so with that in mind I wouldn't want to be paying anymore than £60-70 to have it fitted. It's fiddly, but not hard at all. Smile

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 13:06
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They've quoted me £120 assuming the install is reasonably straight forward so sounds about right.

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 13:24
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Is that for the part and labour then? Unsure

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 16:06
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Yup, if the installation is reasonably quick.

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 16:16
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It's not that bad to do really, just a bit of patience with a 13mm (preferably ratchet) spanner. Yes

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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 18:51

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