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chrisd306

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Well today was really excited knockhill reverse was on few of the lads off here were going so thought great fun here we go!!

Well not fvor me, done 1 warm up lap 1 faster lap nthen went for a flat oot lap an boom there goes third gear bit p**sed off as i thought that this box was bullet proof, done more days with my standard box with no problems!!

well got her back to work shop an heres trhe damage!!

So what should i do now then.......??

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 17:25

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Araldite the teeth back on.

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 17:26

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chrisd306

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Haha

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 17:27

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owain

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Well if you don't fancy that, I'd suggest a new gearbox Dunno

Is there something special about this one that makes it worth repairing?

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 17:30

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chrisd306

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Brand new casing an bits was the shot peened box that gti6boy sold to mabz then to me might send to miles for a repair

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 17:32

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clen666

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So this box WAS shot peened?

I know they aren't unbreakable (evidently), but I thought they were trusted to cope with high boost?

Seems a lot of cash to spend if they can still go bang

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:27

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simonjames

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thats a TWAT

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:31

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It does when a standard box will out last it and cost about 50 notes. Ouchy.

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:32

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IIRC that's the weakest gear according to Miles.

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:36

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After a quick Google, some people claim that shot-peening is most effective on newly cut gears, and may not be effective on worn gears that could have already started to develop cracks.

Cryo treatment may be better?

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:52

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chrisd306

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Probly throw standard box back in

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 19:56

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The only real way to check the gears is to Xray them like the F1 boys do, But I would hate to think how much that would cost.
But as said the Shot P is the cheapest method of a up-rated box not that's its cheap or look at a 5 speed box with deeper cut gears

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 22:31

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chrisd306

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I was under the impression that this box was pretty much brand new then shot peened, just annoying how a old box done 2 years this box 4 track days

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Posted 15th Jul 2012 at 22:36

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Luck of the draw, Like engine's, Who would think one of mine is on 285k and not been touched, Mind it's going to have a late summer overhaul as my Race car is almost done, others don't last 50k

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Posted 16th Jul 2012 at 02:25

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chrisd306

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So what your saying is there's not any point in buying one of your boxes as it might not last as long as a standard box? How much would you be if I was to send you the gears for you to check and replace 3rd gear?

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Posted 16th Jul 2012 at 06:11

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Might be worth asking Ash how his is getting on, he had his cryo treated and last I heard it was fine. He races his too, so gives it a proper battering.

I seem to remember he also didn't bother with shot peening anymore due to bad experiences.

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Posted 16th Jul 2012 at 07:36

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There are quite a few box's I have done have faired well, new gears are around £150.00 from memory plus the process of treatment

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Posted 16th Jul 2012 at 15:11

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owain wrote:

I second this, last I heard the cryo treated gears were fairing far better than any previous shot peened ones.

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Posted 16th Jul 2012 at 15:28

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So glad I didn't buy this box.

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 18:18

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chrisd306

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only a couple days wages so not to worry

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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 18:57

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Sounds like you can avoid a nice sequential box then Smile

Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 19:27

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chrisd306

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there to expensive, a guy with the SOS 205, is going down that route i think

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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 05:56

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My gearbox is fine, was done by Miles just before I went High Boost, now run 2 years worth of Super High Boost.
He had the gears shotpeened and coated from memory as well as fitted my LSD at the same time. Yes

In that time, I've done 3 trips down to Monaco and back giving the car a good pasting through the French Alps and 6 trackdays too.

Been awesome. Yes

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:55

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chrisd306

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Stan, as miles said, its just luck of the draw wether they last or not, so the way im looking at it is i can have 10 standard boxes break for cost of this 1 so i will just be running a standard box that i never had any problems with before, so works out more cost effective for me, as it is only a track car dont see the point on paying mega bucks for something that can still brake an let you down.

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 11:44

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stan hasn't used his for a year, he's telling porkie pipes Razz

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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 11:51

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