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 ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #126
Yep and which intercooler you go for aswell I believe. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
 Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 20:33
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #127
So has no one worked out a fix for this stalling issue? (apart from changing how you drive etc) Sounds like a massive negative for the conversion if it causes stalling not to mention looking pretty stupid when stopping at lights etc. |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 20:44
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davedgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: whiston, prescot Registered: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1,651 Status: Offline |
Post #128
Mine is solved, by connecting up these pins in the connector that goes on the aircon and turning the aircon permanently (obviously I no longer have aircon) on it raises the idle slightly and stops the car from stalling, it also turns on the fans at low speed, however my fans are controlled by an aftermarket controller so only come on at a set temperature, I also have a lightened flywheel which makes the stalling worse but I have no stalling problems with this little simple mod  ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2012 at 21:06
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allesclar
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sheffield Registered: 17 May 2009 Posts: 4,254 Status: Offline |
Post #129
I do not have any issues at all with stalling in my car.________________________________________ Team allesclar ® |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2012 at 08:23
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,458 Status: Offline |
Post #130
im low boost with the larger intercooler, i have minor stalling issuesdoesnt really effect my driving im used to it, been 3 years and im glad it never stopped me supercharging ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2012 at 09:14
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #131
Mines really bad even now it's got full hard pipework all through. Often the first time of starting the car it won't idle and will cut out as soon as the revs drop. Though I do have lightened flywheel and crank pulley as well as other running issues wih it so could be contributing to the problem. Got a spare ICV so will put that on and reset the ecu.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 11:21
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #132
armzs16 wrote: Mines really bad even now it's got full hard pipework all through. Often the first time of starting the car it won't idle and will cut out as soon as the revs drop. Though I do have lightened flywheel and crank pulley as well as other running issues wih it so could be contributing to the problem. Got a spare ICV so will put that on and reset the ecu. Sounds like a good plan, as thats just a standard icv issue all over, Mine non supercharged one used to do the same ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 11:30
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #133
Never had any stalling issues in mine since its been 'charged.I am running the latest map (I would assume), low boost and the smaller intercooler and pipework  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 11:59
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #134
The ECU on mine states its version 2 which i presume is an old one as its 3 years old? Have asked Rich W but awaiting response. This is true of the ICV but it was fine befre being charged. but maybe now its on its way out so having to controll the vaccume in all the boost pipework as well has shown it up. will see later if it isnt p**sing it down after work  ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 12:11
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #135
a brand new one didn't help mine________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 17:02
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lee_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,147 Status: Offline |
Post #136
Must say that i seem to not notice mine stalling as much as i used to, so don't know weather i have just got used to it now or it seems to have got better.I do run the bigger intercooler/ pipe work, with a lighten Rich W fly wheel. ________________________________________ Proud member of the Astor owners clubTeam Charged Swirl pot and silly boost kit for sale |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 17:53
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #137
I have a Rich w lightened fly and smaller pipework and intercooler and have had no stalling issues so far ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 9th Jul 2012 at 18:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #138
The reason for the stalling occuring is down to the workload the ICV now has to undertake. It's a bit like asking a Ford Fiesta engine to power a Ford Fiesta and then asking it to power a 747 and wondering why it can't...Peugeot selected the ICV which was up to the job and suitable for use with their engine design...they didn't factor in that someone might decide to supercharge it one day...  People who have the latest maps on their ECUs should see a marked improvement over the older maps as Chipwizards made some changes to the map to combat this issue whereby they mapped the injectors to cut back in around 1100rpm on the over-run to stop the engine falling from midrange rpm to a stalled state and it seemed to make a noticeable difference.  With the setup myself and Andy run, we no longer use an ICV so have no risk of developing this stalling issue. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:04
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #139
yes the updated map pretty much fixed mine but the best fix by far is to whack aC38 on there. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 15:10
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #140
How is idle controlled then Stan?________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:14
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #141
clen666 wrote: How is idle controlled then Stan? Hole in the butterfly. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:25
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #142
clen666 wrote: How is idle controlled then Stan? There is a 20x14 map controlling the idle using ignition advance  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 21:18
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #143
So I don't need to buy anything else then? ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 21:57
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #144
No  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 22:46
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #145
Seem to have sorted my running issue but stalling issue still remains. Sometimes it's fine you could drop the revs from anywhere and it will hold strong idle fine other times I'll start the car, it'll rev up and cut out again then start it again and it's fine. Will try the other ICV I have now the spluttering is sorted.________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 00:25
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #146
Get a live map done by wayne... Mine has no stalling issues after our last tune!________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 02:06
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #147
mabgti wrote: Get a live map done by wayne... Mine has no stalling issues after our last tune! This is really the only way to cure the issue by getting a map done for your individual car. Yes, it'll cost but you'll end up with the best result at the finish. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 07:43
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #148
Yeh was thinking about it eventually as my exhaust still creates flat spots around 3k even now it's boosted so wants a custom map anyway. Probs wanna upgrade the intercooler and pipework first though. How much does Wayne charge for a custom map?________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 12:31
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #149
Id map em if i had an emulator.. Hes paid aloT for the kits and they dont sell them no more.________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 17:17
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #150
£400 iirc________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 12th Jul 2012 at 17:17
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