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Author Subject: Short FD gearboxes
pete_rallye

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Post #1
I have 2 Gti-6 gearboxes with shorter final drives in. Both were bought to keep as spares for my btcc 306 but doesn't look like I'll ever be using them... I have not used either of them, one was bought from Chris Bowen aka Bigbadbowen on here, the other from a guy who used it in a rallying 306 but found it was too short for some stages so went back to a standard box.

I'm going to have to check what the FD is on them, but 4.8 sounds right from memory.

[edited due to post below] The BBB one is a genuine PeugeotSport Boutique tarmac rally box with a machined shaft which incorporates a needle roller bearing on first gear. This improves the strength massively compared to the standard bearings, ideal for standing starts etc or when there is high load on the first gear bearing.

The other box as far as I am aware is a standard road car box with a shorter FD fitted.

BBB box I would like to see the £850 I paid for it back again.

Cheaper box now sold!

Both boxes are supplied with a standard diff only.

I can have these courier'd on a pallet for around £50 or collect from Harrogate, North Yorks.

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:05
bigbadbowen

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Post #2
Hmmmm

Ok just to let you know the box I sold Pete was originally from France and nothing to do with longmans No

It was a Peugeot boutique Tarmac box with turned crown and pinion with needle roller bearings on first gear. It had a 4.8 final drive

Standard gear ratios other than final drive

Sweet box for acceleration Big grin Yes
Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:16
soton_s16

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Post #3
Anymore details on the £500 box? As these might be perfect for hill climbing!

Also, what sort of speed would you see at about 3.5-4k in 6th?

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:19
pete_rallye

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Post #4
Ah, I though Longmans did it as they did offer to do my dogbox for me also. My mistake.

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:19
pete_rallye

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Post #5
soton_s16 wrote:
Anymore details on the £500 box? As these might be perfect for hill climbing!

Also, what sort of speed would you see at about 3.5-4k in 6th?


Not a lot tbh, the guy said the box was from a car with 62k on it, drove absolutely spot on but obviously I can't verify this.


I've got a speed graph somewhere, i'll dig it out....

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:22
bigbadbowen

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soton_s16 wrote:
Anymore details on the £500 box? As these might be perfect for hill climbing!

Also, what sort of speed would you see at about 3.5-4k in 6th?


70 mph was about 4k in my old weapon
Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:24
soton_s16

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Post #7
Sounds good. I will have a think about it, see what funds I have...

Would you take monthly instalments? Wink

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 21:31
pete_rallye

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Post #8
Lol, no, Sorry. Get a credit card with 0% balance transfer, you can transfer the money to either my bank account or one of my credit cards!

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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 22:08
pete_rallye

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Post #9
Here you go, let me know if you want it to a specific rpm.

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 22:18
miles

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Post #10
Where did that table come from? handy to see what my 4.9 will do on a 206/306/205 box

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 22:40
pete_rallye

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Post #11
You can download a program from Quaifes website that does it for you. Just put in each ratio, the FD and the tyre size and hit calculate!

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 22:42
welshpug!

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Post #12
www.track-monkey.co.uk/downloads/205ratiosGti6.xls

4.8 on 195 50 gives 3415rpm @ 60 mph

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 23:01
pete_rallye

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thats the one i used, although there's a slight change in FD's between ph 1 and 2 and I'm not sure which one that page uses...

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Posted 13th Jun 2012 at 23:02
miles

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Thanks, Still get a 138 top speed thou but it;s better than the listed 174, LOL

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Posted 14th Jun 2012 at 12:41
daveyboy

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PM me your best deal for the Solution F shocks and the Boutique box sil vous plait.

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Posted 14th Jun 2012 at 21:14
jnl

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Im waiting your reply thanks
Posted 14th Jun 2012 at 21:39
soton_s16

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Pm'd Smile

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Posted 14th Jun 2012 at 21:45
pete_rallye

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Post #18
All PM's replied too. £500 box now sold.

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Posted 14th Jun 2012 at 22:27
daveyboy

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I'll take the Boutique Box, just need to confirm the condition of the shocks.

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Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
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Posted 15th Jun 2012 at 09:07
pete_rallye

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Boutique box still for sale.

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Posted 20th Jun 2012 at 23:58
playboyb

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Post #21
p**sed off I can't afford the boutique right now, glwts pete

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Posted 21st Jun 2012 at 07:27
pete_rallye

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Post #22
bump, boutique box still available...

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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 12th Aug 2012 at 21:16
welshpug!

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Is it still on a standard gearset so first is silly short?

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Posted 13th Aug 2012 at 09:48
pete_rallye

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Post #24
You can see from the graph above how short first gear is.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 13th Aug 2012 at 11:16
superchargedblack1997gti6

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BBB box still for sale Pete? Thumbs up

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