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Author Subject: OEM GTI6 calipers vs. 406 Brembo
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Yes, i have braided lines. Smile
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 09:14
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In that case 406 Brembos + Tarox discs + EBC pads + decent brake fluid will do you absolutely fine Yes

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 09:18
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what makes you think you need more than just uprated pads?

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 10:36
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Nothing really, besides the fact to car is turbocharged and produces 280bhp.
That was the reason for me, opening this thread - to understand if the 406 are really better before i am dumping them and getting back to my OEM GTI6 calipers.
With the GTI6 (before the turbo project) I was running around with Red.Dot 20 grooved discs and pads - the car's braking was very good - for 3 years.
The suggestion here is that i use Tarox G88 with pads along with the 406 brembos.
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 10:42
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Fatbas**rd wrote:
Nothing really, besides the fact to car is turbocharged and produces 280bhp


This is a very good reason to uprate the brakes.

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 10:43
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I've had the misfortune of dealing with Hi-spec and Geoff the owner of the firm a few years ago. In my experience they use s**t materials for discs, machining is poor on alloy bells and the customer service was bloody awful.

I ran Hi-spec stuff on my 247bhp Escort Turbo track car and the discs would warp every other trackday, in the end i got sick of dealing with s**t service and had a bespoke AP racing 315mm 4 pot kit built up by AP racing agents, BG developments in bromsgrove. They had a hub, upright and 2 x wheels for a week and built the kit to fit. Tremendous service and quality second to none. NEVER had an issue with warping after that, apart from pad changes due to wearing them out, never touched it.

I recently binned all the old discs and bells and s**tty 4 pot hi-spec calipers as thats all they were good for.

IMO, either uprate the standard pads, or go the whole hog for an AP kit.

Incidentally, Ballardpauls price of £950 is very reasonable for the whole kit. Did that include genuine AP rotors Paul?

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 10:55
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AP racing looks awesome, but i don't live in the UK
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 11:08
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Yeah they are genuine, the kit was bought off of a member on here and had only been trial fitted prior to me buying them so 'technically' a new kit. Believe they are around £1600-£1700 new from a shop.

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 11:10
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Yeah they are genuine, the kit was bought off of a member on here and had only been trial fitted prior to me buying them so 'technically' a new kit. Believe they are around £1600-£1700 new from a shop.


Thats about right, back in 2003, my kit was £1250ish from memory.

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 11:33
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if you decide to go for the g88s. make sure you ask for xantia v6 discs.

for some bizarre reason, c5 v6 discs (although exactly the same measurements) seem to be between £15-20 dearer

i have just bought tarox g88 from eurocarperformance for £222.14 inc delivery Big grin

now i just need to get my brembos painted Wink

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 11:51
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I checked AP - £1600~ 315X28mm.
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 12:20
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AP racing looks awesome, but i don't live in the UK


and that makes a difference how? do they not sell car parts in your country?!

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 12:38
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welshpug! wrote:
Fatbas**rd wrote:
AP racing looks awesome, but i don't live in the UK


and that makes a difference how? do they not sell car parts in your country?!


I don't think he is allowed to import used car parts there, not 100% sure but I think it's illegal. Crazy

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 13:19
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My biggest problem is that i cannot import used brake parts since its not legal.


stan_306gti6 wrote:
I don't think he is allowed to import used car parts there, not 100% sure but I think it's illegal.


Nothing gets past you does it Columbo? Wink

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 13:23
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They do sell car parts, just not AP racing, or any other brakes brand.
I can buy a new AP racing kit, for instance. It will cost around £1800 including shipment, on top of this, probably 40% tax and my brakes will be sorted out.
But i think i can get away with Tarox disc and some pads. it seems like a good, logical solution for the 406 brembo noise.
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 14:11
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owain wrote:
Fatbas**rd wrote:
My biggest problem is that i cannot import used brake parts since its not legal.


stan_306gti6 wrote:
I don't think he is allowed to import used car parts there, not 100% sure but I think it's illegal.


Nothing gets past you does it Columbo? Wink


Well it obviously got past Welshy...Razz

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 14:41
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
owain wrote:
Fatbas**rd wrote:
My biggest problem is that i cannot import used brake parts since its not legal.


stan_306gti6 wrote:
I don't think he is allowed to import used car parts there, not 100% sure but I think it's illegal.


Nothing gets past you does it Columbo? Wink


Well it obviously got past Welshy...Razz


no it didn't, as he was asking about the NEW AP's LOL

my point was about buying parts in the OP's own country, do they not do rallying or racing there??

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 15:38
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LOL

Yeah I think as he points out, a NEW kit will cost more than it would here, plus they have 40% tax there...Blink

That is one expensive brake upgrade.

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 16:57
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f**k it, I'd move country Thumbs up

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:00
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
LOL

Yeah I think as he points out, a NEW kit will cost more than it would here, plus they have 40% tax there...Blink

That is one expensive brake upgrade.


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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:07
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You still go through customs in the airport. Smile
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:33
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You still go through customs in the airport. Smile


Go through the "Nothing to Declare" side and hope they are too busy searching people for drugs, fags and booze to stop you for a brake kit? Dunno LOL

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:39
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Sure, its always possible. As well as the fact you can ask the shop to declare the value as 50 quid and hope for the best. Smile
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:42
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Thought if it said gift on the customs paperwork it was duty freeDunno

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Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 17:53
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I'll vote for standard with good disks and pads, seeing as you make it clear its more for road use than track I think they will be more than upto the job and by the sounds of it will be a lot less hassle for you.

I'm not saying the brembo's aren't better but with the costs and hassle I wouldn't bother for road use myself, either stay standard or spend the money and get a proper upgrade if/when you need it IMO.

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