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whats the chances of fitting the above discs to a 306 with GTi6 calipers?....
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 22:54
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #2
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 22:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #3
they'll fit with 307 calipers.but they do weigh a CHUFFING TON. you have a diseasel, stick with the 266mm standards and good pads. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:08
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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already got gti6 anchors up front, and i will admit, the 283's are better but the 266's would havedone the job quite adequately! However my discs are warped..... tbh i wasnt aware that 302mm discs were available for pugs so after hearing about it i thought it had to be worth asking!! |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:28
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JWP EFi
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Post #5
will the 307 calipers work with the GTI6 yolks / saddles, whatever you want to call them! |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
no, they are specific to the caliper, you'd need the 307 carriers.apparentlu quite rare to warp a disc, usually poor pad choice leaving deposits on the disc when they melt ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:36
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #7
you need these discs for the 807v6 setup, im going to look into bells and rotors though i think if the discs are heavy________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:38
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: no, they are specific to the caliper, you'd need the 307 carriers. apparentlu quite rare to warp a disc, usually poor pad choice leaving deposits on the disc when they melt ...think i'll not bother with 302's, my discs and pads came from ECP, and for first few hundered miles they felt s**te but now feel ok apart from being warped, heavy braking and deep puddle to blame me thinks! |
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Posted 25th Apr 2012 at 23:49
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro  Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
Post #9
I've the 302's on my HDi and the discs weigh a shed load, but the do stop damn well. |
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Posted 28th Apr 2012 at 14:20
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Is it the discs that are heavy or the calipers?If its the discs is anyone clever enough to figure out if I can get bells and rotors in the same dimensions for a 306? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 28th Apr 2012 at 23:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #11
both.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Apr 2012 at 23:16
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Indeed, there off the car atm so can weigh them up if you want. But not sure if I've anything to weigh them on. |
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Posted 29th Apr 2012 at 00:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #13
discs weigh 8.42kg each, standard 283's weigh 5.95kg, original calipers are about 6 kg.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Apr 2012 at 09:36
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Hmmm. Bells and rotors then, no point in 2kg calipers if the discs weigh that________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 29th Apr 2012 at 09:39
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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How wide are the 302 discs again? I think HI-spec might do rotors that would workalthough this is a little off poutting. Old. but still http://bbs.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyres-and-brakes-13/316231-dont-buy-hi-spec-brakes.html ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 11:36
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #16
28mm i think________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 12:25
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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feck.Whats the deal with bells and rotors etc. Is it a case of all the bells for our cars are the same and the you just need rotors in the size you want? Or do bells come suited to invidual rotor widths and sizes? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 13:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: bells come suited to individual rotor sizes To a point, most brands have a few bolt patterns depending on the diameter of the disc+bell combo, and of course the offsets can be varied. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 13:22
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Hmmm this is tough. I don't really get working out disc sizes etc. for example I'm sure the 807 v6 had bigger and thicker discs than that, I kind of get the difference in diameter as the hubs are not the same. but surely the thickness is thickness you know?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Apr 2012 at 19:26
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Been into pug today, retail on the 807 calipers is £343 each and my local one can do them for £309. |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 15:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #21
the mag radial mount ones?  not that expensive then.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 15:32
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Oh really?I though they were 400+ each? In that case i might just pick them up through Peugeot(I'll give Cardiff a go this time instead of Newport, they rip you off big style) Just need to sort lighter discs now ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 16:33
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Indeed, they only list one type for the 807 I do believe, part no 4401F4/5 for left and right.Or from here delivered for 388 Euro, but may not be genuine brembo ones. http://seekpart24.com/budweg/brake-caliper-343664?c=100807&at=12677 |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 16:37
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c_j_m
Seasoned Pro Location: Andover Registered: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1,917 Status: Offline |
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Also found they use the 283mm 206 gti 180 discs with the 406 brembos on the C2R2. |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 16:38
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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c_j_m wrote: Indeed, they only list one type for the 807 I do believe, part no 4401F4/5 for left and right. Or from here delivered for 388 Euro, but may not be genuine brembo ones. http://seekpart24.com/budweg/brake-caliper-343664?c=100807&at=12677 they are the ones I know, Budweg Recon ones, They look very real :S I left Budweg an email earlier today about them. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 1st May 2012 at 16:39
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