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Author Subject: I'm stumped!
mattgti6phase2

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Post #1
Hi guys.

Ok firstly I'm posting in general as i am unsure what the problem is as of yet. If admin feel they need to move it then feel free Yes

I wasn't going to post at all as im usually good at finding issues if they occur but today i have had a real good look and still can't find the issue so im now getting pretty p**sed off!

My 6 has developed a whirring noise it can be heard ever so slightly whilst driving in a straight line but becomes more apparent when cornering. If you turn left between 10 an 11 o'clock it occurs and the same if you turn right. The noise doesn't occur all the time and will only be apparent above 20mph.

Due to servicing just recently the car has has new wheel bearings both sides,new discs and pads front and rear new diff seals and gear oil so i have to say im lost as to what it could be. Both ball joints are less than 6 months old an i have checked for movement and there is none. The tracking was recently done when i had new tyres fitted the wheels were also balanced. Both TRES are fine also.

From what i feel by hand the driveshafts seem ok and with the car on axle stands and left to run in first gear the noise has completely gone. Then as soon as you drive it again it comes back. Everything is tight and where it should be.

So am i missing something simples or is there something more sinister at work?

Many thanks Matt.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:03
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cheapo bearings or branded?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:06
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bearings still or shafts

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:12
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wrong / low gear oil?
Pulleys?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:17
owain

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PAS pump.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:20
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wiper motor

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:21
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Whirring Simulator installed?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:23
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most likely to be the rearmost left supermegatron above the rear subframe

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:28
owain

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Paddy McGuinness trying to say "where" under your bonnet?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:32
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Post #10
rikky wrote:
most likely to be the rearmost left supermegatron above the rear subframe


Hmm I had my suspicions

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:33
mattgti6phase2

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welshpug! wrote:
cheapo bearings or branded?


SFK

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:33
mattgti6phase2

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Post #12
eliotrw wrote:
wrong / low gear oil?
Pulleys?


2.1 litres of BV pulleys are fine.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:33
matt evans

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Post #13
owain wrote:
Whirring Simulator installed?


And working i suspect.

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Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:34
mattgti6phase2

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Post #14
When it whirring it can be felt through the steering wheel. So confused.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:35
matt evans

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Post #15
PAS belt or PAS pump bearings giving up. Take the AUX belt off and see if theres any play in the pump

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:36
welshpug!

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got a solid bottom engine mount?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 14:49
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Don't no if it will help when I got my 6 I had Whirring noise it turned out to be low on power steering fluid .
Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:07
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Try and get all of your driving done before 10 o'clock, you should be in bed by then anyway

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:09
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Low power steering fluid?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:12
owain

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PAS pump?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:12
mattgti6phase2

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Post #21
welshpug! wrote:
got a solid bottom engine mount?


All mounts are OE and are in a pretty good state of health.

As said the whirring occurs when turning and not all the time and you have to be doing above 20mph.

On that basis i would hazard a hazard a guess that its something that is constantly rotating and when rotating on an angle ( with steering lock applied ) it isn't happy.

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:37
owain

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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
i would hazard a hazard a guess that its something that is constantly rotating and when rotating on an angle ( with steering lock applied ) it isn't happy.


How about the PAS pump? Anyone suggested that yet?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:39
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Post #23
won't be the pas pump

what about the power steering pump?

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:41
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PAS pump. As stated above, take the aux belt off and check for play in the pump and the idler on the same belt system. My guess is the pump is beginning to show signs of wear. Wink

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Posted 17th Apr 2012 at 15:42
owain

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bo***cks, won't be that. There's a hydraulic pump on the near left side of the engine bay which runs from the aux belt, take a look at that.

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