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 b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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Is fitting a Vts box a straightforward job currently got a gti6 box in my gti6 engined 205 is the clutch ,driveshafts ,selector fork and clutch cable the same ?Are there any mods i may need to make ?Dont want to take my gti6 box out to find that the vts box requires additional parts. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
 Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 00:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #2
yup, straight on.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:11
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Lift reverse cable if there is one may or may not be needed - can't remember at the moment which is which! ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:23
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears Yeah took me ages to find 1/2/5/R in my BE3 after changing from a BE1 in my 205. In the days before forums  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 09:37
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
Post #6
adam b wrote: When converted from non lift reverse cable to reverse lift like on a gti 6 box i had to fit my 205 1.6 gti gear stick which had lift up for gti 6 reverse.Do i need to change this or can i still use it without using the lift up function ? welshpug! wrote: ohh yeah, if that's present, don't use it or you wont have many gears Yeah took me ages to find 1/2/5/R in my BE3 after changing from a BE1 in my 205. In the days before forums ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:07
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Depends on how the conversion was done, if done properly you need to swap1. Clutch Arm and shaft 2. Diff 3. Top Selector Arm If not then you never know what's been done ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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1.6 and 1.9 gearsticks are the same, as are BE1 and BE3, they just dont have the cable stuff attached.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:21
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
Post #9
welshpug! wrote: 1.6 and 1.9 gearsticks are the same, as are BE1 and BE3, they just dont have the cable stuff attached. Ok so it looks like a straight swap gearbox wise i did change the i think it was the inner driveshaft due to the diff seals being different on a gti6 box would this driveshaft be ok for the vts box or would i have to change it back to 1.9 gti spec ? ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 11:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #10
all BE diff seals are the same, the gti6 diff is the same as a vts diff so keep your shaft as it is.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 12:10
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
Post #11
welshpug! wrote: all BE diff seals are the same, the gti6 diff is the same as a vts diff so keep your shaft as it is. Cheers pal ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 12:26
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
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As per Welshpug my Rallye has a VTS box on, straight swap. Seals the same and diffs interchangeable, I put an LSD in mine.________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 6th Apr 2012 at 14:08
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speed ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 12th Apr 2012 at 20:52
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
Post #14
coskev wrote: I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speed Any gears in particular? I dont like the gears on the 6 speed 3rd and 4th are to short. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 04:14
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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b11 bob wrote: coskev wrote: I had a VTS box in my 309 running a VTS engine,only thing I would say I did not like as much as the 6 speed are the gear ratios of the 5 speed Any gears in particular? I dont like the gears on the 6 speed 3rd and 4th are to short. you should like the vts box then!! as its the closeness of the 6 speed I like ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:10
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro  Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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Got two boxes for sale bob if you havent got one one 70k and one 36k...both ready for collection or drop to you?________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:19
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b11 bob
Banned! Location: birmingham Registered: 19 Dec 2010 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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yippeekayay wrote: Got two boxes for sale bob if you havent got one one 70k and one 36k...both ready for collection or drop to you? I already have one but thanks for the offer next time you in Brum and you got some spare time let me know as you seem to come across so many bits for peugeots.You would be the ideal person to advise me on what i may need to inprove my car. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 235 bhp at 7400 rpm |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 11:41
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samslow
Regular  Location: leicester Registered: 19 Jul 2010 Posts: 158 Status: Offline |
Post #18
out of interest why do people put xsara boxes in pugs? are they 6 spd too?________________________________________ Diablo Gti6 ph 2 98 |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #19
no, they're 5 speed, a bit stronger, also fit better in a 205 than a 6 speed box.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:29
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I changed as i preferred the 5 speed to the 6 speed, for track work ideally but it's also still a weekend toy.Not that i've driven it since. :'( ________________________________________ I'm Si btwNight Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 15th Apr 2012 at 10:43
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