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Subject: Aussie GTi6 NOT STARTING - HELP

gti6aus

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G'day all

My project beast has suffered an initial setback, not to worry. LOL

I'll just start by briefing you on the history from the previous owner. The original ECU failed (for what reason I am unsure of).

It was then replaced with an unlocked ECU which worked well for years, including the few months I owned it.

Just recently the car started to stall randomly and every now and then the fuel pump would not prime. Then finally the fuel pump stopped priming all together. The fuel relay behind the battery definitely works!!

Almost there, so I grabbed a locked ECU and matching transponder + key fob (with my actual key in the top) and assumed this would work.

Put it all in and the fuel pump started priming. I'm thinking problem fixed, however now I have no spark.

Man this is so frustrating. Is there something I am missing. I just want it to run again so I can start replacing stuff and getting the project on the way haha.

Cheers, Dom. Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 02:37

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I'm almost 100% the immobiliser is still on. Did you also change the transponder aerial which fits around the ignition barrel?

I am thinking this may have failed in the past, hence the previous owner fitting an unlocked ECU. Now that ECU has gone bad and you've replaced it with a locked one with the key and transponder etc, but this new setup will still need to use the transponder aerial which is still broken from last time. Just a thought perhaps? Unsure

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 08:12

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gti6aus

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Hi Stan, thanks for the reply.

I have changed over the ecu, transponder (the black circle device that fits over the ignition barrel and the key end, they are all from the same car. My actual key (metal piece) has been inserted into the matching key fob as it matches my ignition and door locks!

Unless I'm confused about what the transponder is?

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 09:02

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The transponder is that small black square chip in your keys! Smile

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 09:08

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eliotrw

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Exactly, looks a bit like a magnet.

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:34

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gti6aus

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gnrlee wrote:

The transponder is that small black square chip in your keys! Smile

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm using the ecu, transponder and transponder aerial all from the donor car but still no start!

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:37

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bigbadbowen

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You need the ecu, transponder chip out of the key and the black box that sits under the dash above the centre console ? Thumbs up

Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:39

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welshpug!

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the aerial is just an aerial, its the black box you need.

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:41

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gti6aus

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Does someone have a photo of this black box? Cheers

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:46

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bigbadbowen

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It's under the dash you need to remove the centre console (bit that surrounds the gear stick and hand break lever) you need to pull down the plastic cover to reveal the black box Thumbs up

Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 10:52

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gti6aus

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bigbadbowen wrote:

It's under the dash you need to remove the centre console (bit that surrounds the gear stick and hand break lever) you need to pull down the plastic cover to reveal the black box Thumbs up

Ok I will check it out. What is the black box called? I had no idea you needed this as well!!

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Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 12:32

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bigbadbowen

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Texton unit I think ?

Posted 1st Apr 2012 at 15:08

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gti6aus

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So each texton unit is different?

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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 00:32

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gti6aus

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Bump? Surely someone knows what is going on? Are these alarm units (texton) all different? Meaning i need the same ecu, transponder and aerial and this unit to allow the car start?

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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 13:06

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That's correct mate, you will need the one out of the donor car. Yes

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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 14:57

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gti6aus

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stan_306gti6 wrote:

That's correct mate, you will need the one out of the donor car. Yes

Cheers Stan, will take my old one out and swap the donor one in. Hopefully it will fire up!

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Posted 3rd Apr 2012 at 07:58

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gti6aus

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Problem solved. Is running again. Thanks everyone.

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Posted 12th Apr 2012 at 08:23

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Does the engine turn the opposite way in the southern hemisphere?

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Posted 12th Apr 2012 at 18:11

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buzzbrightyear wrote:

Does the engine turn the opposite way in the southern hemisphere?

Glad you got it running mate. Thumbs up

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Posted 12th Apr 2012 at 18:48

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