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Author Subject: Should i upgrade standard suspension?
tom28

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At the moment i'm looking at upgrading the suspension both front and rear but not sure whether i should bother spending money on my 6 when it 'apparently' already has a perfect setup on it already.

Here are the options i have been weighing up:

1. full suspension kit (either adjustable damping or none adjustable??) for example i could get from SPAX either PSX or VSX (anything better than SPAX??)

2. JUST lowering springs (which ones are the best??)

3 Coilovers (again which ones are the best??)

In conjunction with changing the suspension what other bits and pieces would be advisable to replace/change at the same time? (powerflex bushes? ect)

The one thing that is bugging me the most is lowering the rear to suit the inevitable change in height at the front, if i were to get the torsion bar lowered what would you have to change/upgrade so it is in tune/balance with the front?

I would like to know peoples opinions on what setup they think is the best way to go as i only want to upgrade if the end result will be BETTER THAN STANDARD

I would also like to know if i just used lowering springs at the front and lowered the car at the rear to suit, is this a good setup and would it be the same as standard (handling wise) just lower?

I am being very reserved with changing things on me pug as im worried i might upset the balance of the car for the worse so any feedback on this suspension query would be very much appreciated Thumbs up
Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 11:56
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C'mon guys someone must have some experience with a good setup !!
Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 19:04
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one of the most common and liked road setups on here is as follows.
Bilstein B8's up front with Eibach -30mm shocks
Bilstein b6s on the rear with 21mm Torsion bars
Hybrid arb and solid mounts on the back
rear lowered between 20-30mm
Im doing the above plus:

Every other component in the front Genuine Peugeot or Lemforder and replaced.

Inculding Droplinks, Track rod ends, Wishbone bushes and ball joints top mounts and bearings. New dust covers for the shocks and bumpstops from a 206 gti

Rebuild rear beam

For the road i'm not sure you can do better without compromising the ride

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 19:58
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That sounds like a tidy setup Big grin how much are the billys for both the front and rear? and a good place to buy em from? Cheerz

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:09
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Pretty sure miles sells the Bilsteins mate, send him a pm.

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:12
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It's a slippery slope, once you start upgrading its tough to keep the costs down.

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:13
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You can get the Bilsteins front and rear with eibachs for about 590 as a "B12 Kit"
or just the shocks for 500

I'll pm miles too actually as im getting mine in a month or so

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:13
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What do you actually want from the suspension?

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:15
tom28

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Would anybody rate SPAX? (purely as a cheaper alternative)
Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:15
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I would want it to be lower by 30-40mm MAX and to handle better than standard if that is possible, so it oversteers less aswell.....
Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:17
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Give you a better idea once my springs come,currently waiting to fit
b8s fronts,Eibach springs,206gti bumpstops,upper spring seats,topmounts,bearings dust covers,pinch bolts,rose jointed droplinks,whiteline upper strut brace
b6 rears lowered 20mm beam powerflex rear bumpstops for nowYes

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:23
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Sorry I'm finding it difficult to concentrate on your posts as your current avatar is distracting...Big grin

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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 23:15
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tom28 wrote:
I would want it to be lower by 30-40mm MAX and to handle better than standard if that is possible, so it oversteers less aswell.....


Why and when does it oversteer?
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 00:25
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Probly oversteers due to knackered rear beam mounts. I'd change these for fresh new oe ones or solid mount it. I have lowered mine 40mm at the front and 30mm at the back. I have standard front shock so only the springs are changed. On the back I had a referbed beam and billy b6 shocks with stardard tb's and a 25mm arb. It handles better than standard now and dont really comprimise the ride or cost too much to do. Smile

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Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 07:00
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sorry should have been more specific, i meant reduce lift off oversteer, but i think you've covered that any way by mentioning fitting solid mounts
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:01
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would the best lowering springs be eibach by any chance ? Whistle
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:03
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A couple of posters have already hinted at it, but any money for "upgrades" is best aimed at replacing worn bits that are past their best with new. By this I mean replacing knackered 15-year-old standard Pug stuff like various bushes, mounts etc with brand new standard Pug stuff is going to produce a significant improvement in the way the car drives - a similar effect to an "upgrade".

So before throwing money at upgrades, best make sure the car is performing at least as well as the factory intended first, even though it is less sexy than shiny new coilovers etc.

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Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:05
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sound, when i get round to doing the suspension i'll get as much as i can replaced then, thinking seen as though i'm no mechanic and got no tools i might aswell take her to pug1off and get them to do THE LOT, relpace bushes, engine mounts, fit suspension/shocks and lower torsion bar

SORTED Big grin
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:25
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sod that, get yourself down to halfords and get the 150 piece toolkit, and crack on.

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Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:32
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LOOL i actually work for halfrauds LOL
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:35
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I wish i was able to do it myself but wouldn't know where to even start and i'd probably just end up making a complete cluster f**k of it No

if there was any one local to me who could help with fitting these bits then obviously i would pay them for their time to get the job done....
Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 11:40
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staf discount on haynes manual ftmfw

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Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 12:22
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Buddy you can do it. I'm going to have a crack. The jobs I've done so far haven't all gone to plan, but its very rewarding knowing you have done it yourself and the tools make you feel like a true man and increase you appoints ten fold.
Jokes aside there's no excuse not to buy the tools if you work for halfords Razz

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Posted 17th Mar 2012 at 14:08
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I have SPAX PSX 30mm with Powerflex B'stops and mounts, combined with OMP upper strut brace. It's not a bad setup whilst still retaining some sort of budget. I would love to have Bilstein or Eibach but with the way things are at the moment, £££ is hard to find and I can't justify it at the moment.

You've been in mine anyways Tom, you know how it handles Yes

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