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| Author | Subject: 1.6 conversion to the 2.0l gti6 running crap |
 Teshboi1988
Regular  Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #1
need to know whether the cam pulleys the inlet n outlet are the same? if not how can u tell difference between 2? my guy thinks maybe the cam pulleys where mixed....________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
 Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 10:29
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Std pulleys are the same I think ? I'd check you idle control valve on the inlet manifold first  |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 10:32
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #3
idle control valve... have u got a pic of where the pipe goes to and from.... im doin a conversion from a 1.6 and a lot had to be changed..________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 10:43
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Pulleys are the same.  ICV pipe goes from the main intake pipe (where the filter is) to the ICV itself. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 10:55
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #5
il got no standard air box filter... got engine from jst the throttle body. is that were u mean________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:10
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Hmmm maybe its missing and that's your problem?It's attached the throttle body and is kinda underneath the cable. Has a little pipe connected to it. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 11:27
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Look at your throttle body the icv I on the back of that ? It's black and held in with 2 m8 or m10 bolts. You can change it or try cleaning it ? |
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Posted 10th Mar 2012 at 17:35
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #8
yea i had cleaned ICV. bt still same. its responsive wen u push accelerator. bt running poorly...i fitted wossner forged pistons ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 07:02
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #9
right heres the cracki had a 306 1.6. gearbox kinda exploded... so looking on ebay found a guy who sold me a gti6 engine conversion kit... ecu, loom, gearbox etc... so then i converted to the gti spec.... suspension brakes exhaust, subframe steering rack etc whilst i had engine out i thought id wack some wossner pistons in, n do the whole shabang n replace all the bits that wear.. bigends smallends stem seals.. new gaskets new crank n cam seals cambelt auxbelt had engine block bored out had head skimmed flywheel skimmed valves lapped new clutch (proformance) everything has been cleaned and serviced it got ecu programmed to key... n boom it started... but..... its running shit, its idling at 20 then slowly dies n cuts out.... HELP ________________________________________ Tesh ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 12th Mar 2012 at 07:06
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Another thread and you still havent answered my question about the pistons! ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 17:03
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #11
sorry. wossner forged pistonsnext question i need to no whether the fuel pump needs to be changed? from the 1.6 to the 2.0l? atm it is fueling it. but my mechanic thinks it may b overfueling?? ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 21:16
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #12
or the timing is out... but going to redo timing 2mz... its out a tooth that y it may be running s**tty..if the timing is out wood that be the cause of fuel and smoke dripping out throttle body? thanks ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 21:30
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Get a new mechanic?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 22:14
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #14
so wot yes no??________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 22:17
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Fuel and smoke dripping out of the throttle body... By fitting the Wossner pistons have you altered the compression ratio? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 00:50
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #16
yea they high comp pistons. so how do i go about altering the compression?? ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 07:55
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #17
does any1 no whether the fuel pump gta b changed from the 1.6 to 2.0l? i no the fuel lines had to be changed. done that... bt what bout pump??________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 08:03
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Yes, you should be swapping the fuel pump over to the GTi-6 one. When you say the pistons are high compression ones, what compression figure do they actually give? The standard pistons give a compression ratio of 10.8:1. If the pistons you have installed have altered this then the engine's mapping will need to be changed to accomodate this. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 08:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
 Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #19
no, same fuel pump.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 09:10
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #20
welshpug! wrote: no, same fuel pump. Is it? I stand corrected... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 10:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #21
yarp  only the SPI phase 1's had a different pump. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 10:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #22
welshpug! wrote: yarp only the SPI phase 1's had a different pump. Learn something new everyday.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 10:56
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Teshboi1988
Regular Location: Dartford Registered: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #23
ok kool thanks....right so i need it mapped right ok... hmmm... how much isit roughly for it to get mapped.. and just a curious question whats the advantages and disadvantages of lowering or raising compression?? ________________________________________ phase 3 Hatchback V reg 5Door GTi6 |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 20:06
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #24
You need to get in contact with chip wizards to have these ecus mapped. |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 20:17
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anth
Seasoned Pro Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #25
And to answer you other question.High compression is for na engines the higher compression the more efficient the mix of air and fuel become which produces more power. Low compression is for turbos- your throwing compressed air into the chamber. That's the basic explanation anyway someone else could probably tear that apart |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 20:21
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