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After reading up on THIS THREAD and posting my interest in the conversion around this time last year HERE, I've now done a bit more research and will be getting the LPG Conversion done to my car before PugfestThumbs up

I've had a quote from Global Auto Gas and I've been quoted £950 for the full conversion which is done by an approved installer and certified. I'm yet to talk the price down but I've only recenetly received the quote and not going to talk price down until I'm ready to have my 6 converted.

The company convert about 50 cars a month and Global Autogas LPG conversion Includes:
• LPGA approval certificate installing Prins system
• 2 years unlimited mileage parts & labour warranty
• Free Valve Saver Lubrication system in all make of vehicle
• Free Service in First 2000 miles & complete system check
• LPG conversion within 24 hours (subject to engine size)
• Colour coded filler cap
• Largest suitable tank
• Free pickup and delivery service
• Free Courtesy car if needed

I've had quotes from more local locations to me but they tend to me another £500 on top. So I think a weekend with my sister in London would be good then a cruise home on gas!

Map to see local installers to you: CLICKY

Latest average prices to me are around:

Unleaded 95: → p/L 138.9 p/L 07/03/2012
LPG Autogas: → p/L 74.9 p/L 29/02/2012

To find local prices to you CLICK HERE

I've worked out that I drive around 15,000 miles a year and spend roughly £230p/m (£2760p/a) on petrol (2011-2012). If I convert to LPG my costs will be roughly £138p/m (£1656p/a) on gas. Add £10 a month on petrol for arguments sake = £1776 a year on fuel. Plus there's the cost of an additional service for the LPG conversion, I guess £100 a year so costs will be £1876. This means I'm saving around £1,000 a year!

On top of this, I have had confirmation that because my car was registered after on or after March 2001 (Y reg), I will be able to claim 10%-20% back on my car tax which is currently £260 a year. That saves me a further £40 roughly!

So if I have the conversion done, it will pay for itself in less than a year, it'll reduce my car tax slightly, some reviews say there's no change in performance reading the above threads of people who have done the conversion to their GTi6. My insurance may decrease (Last time I got a quote last year there was no change).

I have read reviews of the valves not lubricating on early LPG Conversions but this includes a kit to keep them lubricated. So I see no problems to worry about at all.Wink


So just to clear the above up, Positives of a LPG Conversion could be (not done yet):
Lower emisions
Cheaper car tax
Cheaper London congestion charge
Possibly lower car insurance
Saves me £1000 a year!
No spare wheel to worry about

Negatives of having the LPG Conversion:
Going to cost around £950 for the conversion
I don't like the look of a plastic cap on the rear side of my bumper
Slightly lower MPG reported on some conversions
Small chance of slight loss of power
More weight to car with extra tank and kit. But not much more as spare wheel will be removed

Just to add the tank will be where my spare wheel currently is, so no space lost either!

That's all I can think off to sum up my thoughts on the LPG Conversion that I will be doing in a few months time, ready for Pugfest if anyone wants to see or ask anything please feel freeThumbs up


ps. I believe that if my car was registered before 2001, I wouldn't be able to claim back on the car tax. So having a newer registered car has its benefits on this oneRazz Tax rebate more info clicky 1 and clicky 2

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 18:39
rwgti

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One of my dads old mates used to convert all his BMW's to LPG he used buy them new convert run them for two-three years then get another. He never had any problems at all. So good luck with it Thumbs up

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 18:52
sarahsix

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My brother has a freelander with a lpg conversion, its never worked properly and spends most of its time broken...good luck though, you really do love your car a bit too much Razz

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 18:55
mechanical_repairs

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Post #4
sarahsix wrote:
My brother has a freelander with a lpg conversion, its never worked properly and spends most of its time broken...good luck though, you really do love your car a bit too much Razz


That's nothing to do with an LPG conversion tho
LOL

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:00
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mechanical_repairs wrote:
sarahsix wrote:
My brother has a freelander with a lpg conversion, its never worked properly and spends most of its time broken...good luck though, you really do love your car a bit too much Razz


That's nothing to do with an LPG conversion tho
LOL

Carl


LOL funniest thing is, he also has a 306 for when the freelander is dead! A dtub sedan...not nice, it even has walnut dash!

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:03
jammamayhew Banned!

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mechanical_repairs wrote:
sarahsix wrote:
My brother has a freelander with a lpg conversion, its never worked properly and spends most of its time broken...good luck though, you really do love your car a bit too much Razz


That's nothing to do with an LPG conversion tho
LOL

Carl


My thoughts tooLOL

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2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:04
matt evans

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This will be worth keeping an eye on.

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owain wrote:
Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:04
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Its not just the love for my car, its the love for my wallet too!

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GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds!

2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
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"I LIVE FOR THE 306"
Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:05
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Another negative is the big heavy gas tank you will have to carry round. Razz

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:07
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prism7guy wrote:
Another negative is the big heavy gas tank you will have to carry round. Razz


True...will amend now but then again I wont have a heavy spare wheel!Thumbs up

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GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds!

2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
]FOR SALE[/b]

"I LIVE FOR THE 306"
Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:09
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good luck with driving around with a bomb in the boot, think it ok for mercs or motorway trawlers but you have a highly tuned french hatch back and it is just another thing to go wrong really can't see the point in throwing another 2k at an old 2.0 litre hatch back that will be dead in a couple of years.

i have a 1.6 d turbo in a mini it is a diesel it does 50 mpg booting it around and supposedly 72 mpg if driven economically it costs 20 quid a year to tax and is as quick as a fiat 500 abarth. not banging the drum for minis but i think it is the best car with this engine in, you could have a 207 or a bmw i believe they all use the same engine.
by the time you have paid for your lpg conversion in savings i more than likely could have bought your car and paid for the conversion.
i will also add that lpg has gone mad on the price it used to be half the price of petrol it is no where near that now

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:09
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Carl didnt you have one with LPG in for a spell?
Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:10
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What would the costs be like if you sell up and buy a diesel??

Some are tax exempt and return as good as 70mpg. Just good for thought.

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Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:11
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I would budget more than £10 per month into your calculations.

I remember when LPG was 40p a litre.

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  • Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:12
    jammamayhew Banned!

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    Post #15
    gtisid wrote:
    good luck with driving around with a bomb in the boot



    I read somewhere when doing my research that LPG cars are actually safer than petrol, mainly because the tank is safer/strongerYes

    mattgti6phase2 wrote:
    What would the costs be like if you sell up and buy a diesel??

    Some are tax exempt and return as good as 70mpg. Just good for thought.


    I did think about having an HDI instead. But its not quite the same and I still want the 6 till the day I die even if its still costing me more than and HDI, I'm still getting more smiles per miles and power for pugfest etc

    dangti6 wrote:
    I would budget more than £10 per month into your calculations.

    I remember when LPG was 40p a litre.



    What do you mean? My calculations were roughly £137 a month on LPG

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    NUTRI-FIX

    GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds!

    2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
    2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
    2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
    2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:12
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    Would be interested to see the results of this really

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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:26
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    i reckon it will end in tears Sad

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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:30
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    roland rat wrote:
    Carl didnt you have one with LPG in for a spell?


    Yes I did, didn't really run it that long to get the feel of it, it drove ok on it and seemed alright but like you say you loose the spare wheel and have some awfull injectors drilled into the manifold that tick quite loudly.

    Other than that if you do the miles I am sure it's a great thing to have, not for me on what at least is an 11 year old car. Put it this way if your car needed £1000 worth of engine work most people nowadays would scrap it, same thing in my eyes with this conversion.

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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:32
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    dangti6 wrote:
    I would budget more than £10 per month into your calculations.

    I remember when LPG was 40p a litre.



    What do you mean? My calculations were roughly £137 a month on LPG


    £10 gets naff all petrol and say you got 40 miles from that when you can't find a station a few times a month. I would just be surprised of you only had to put several litres of petrol in a month so would probably pop £20 down. Do you still have to start on petrol these days and then flick over to LPG?

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  • Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:35
    anth

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    You sound like you already have a massive hard on for this idea, so you may as well go for it. If you wanted my opinion though then i would say it's a waste of time.
    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 19:46
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    We bought a V8 Discovery 1 with LPG conversion in November 2010. The plan was to trailer my 6 to and from trackdays as the missus was scared I would bin the car and we'd be stranded.

    It's now more or less my daily driver as it's so comfortable and the V8 rumble is niiiiice Love

    It's a great car and it's been really useful to transport cars that friends have bought or want to scrap. That's because it's a Discovery though.

    As far as LPG is concerned, you get less power and about 80% of the economy compared to petrol. It starts on petrol and switches over automatically when the engine is up to temperature. If you stall it does the same regardless of whether the engine is hot or not Angry

    I will not talk about fuel consumption though LOL

    There aren't that many reliable LPG stations near me so I have to travel quite a way to be sure I can fill up.

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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 20:05
    gocart man

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    Post #22
    Read your links....
    So take it your going for the BRC Plug n drive setup?

    I would go with the Prins Vsi system as a better system, This is what I have fitted. The system has its own ecu and can be programmed like mapping on a normal ecu, as regards valve protection I would not bother. Mine went faulty and earthed a petrol injector so flooded a cylinder.. Our cars dont need it and its £200 fitted. So you can get a better system and then knock him down.

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    4 cylinder conversion £1190 +VAT

    5 cylinder conversion £1290+VAT

    6 cylinder conversion £1490+VAT

    8 cylinder conversion £1690+VAT

    Feel free to contact me..

    P.S......set aside £40 for a set of NGK-lpg sparkplugs, lpg has a bigger draw on the ignition components as runs hotter and needs more to make the bang..
    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 20:33
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    Got to be honest, its not something i would do.
    They do less mpg on lpg too so its not quite as clear cut as a comparison of price per liter
    I'd much rather:
    Get new suspension
    or
    Get tbs and cams
    or
    be half way towards the kit you need for a charger

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    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 22:11
    jammamayhew Banned!

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    my quote was for the prins kit. Apparently best on the market. Thanks for advice on spark plugs. In regards to valve protection the kit is covered by 2 year warranty so if the conversion damages anything I'll claim for it

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    GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds!

    2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
    2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
    2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
    2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
    ]FOR SALE[/b]

    "I LIVE FOR THE 306"
    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 22:23
    jammamayhew Banned!

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    gocat man. "lpg conversion, averaging 270 miles from £31 of gas hahahahahahahahahahahaha"

    see you there mate! Smile

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    NUTRI-FIX

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    2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD
    2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD
    2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD
    2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD
    2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red
    ]FOR SALE[/b]

    "I LIVE FOR THE 306"
    Posted 8th Mar 2012 at 22:28

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