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HelloHave anyone tried 23mm torsion bars for road use? Will they be to stiff?
Running 21mm now, and i dont think they are stiff enough.
Does anyone make 22mm?
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 peugeot96
Regular  Location: verdal Registered: 14 Sep 2011 Posts: 218 Status: Offline |
Have anyone tried 23mm torsion bars for road use? Will they be to stiff? Running 21mm now, and i dont think they are stiff enough. Does anyone make 22mm? |
 Posted 2nd Feb 2012 at 07:01
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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I think you can get 21.5s from a partner van or something?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 18:51
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I believe the Partner vans use 21mm, if I remember correctly.  I am currently running 21mm, and they seem fine to me. I also have a 30mm anti-roll bar, solid beam mounts, KW dampers and lowered 40mm from standard. Tyres are R888's, and the back-end seems planted. What other mods have you had done to the rear beam? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 18:55
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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Think partner bars are 21.3 but they aren't wide enough for 306 beams, they use them on 205s I think________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 18:59
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Actually I think your right  ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 19:37
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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Partner bars are 309/405 length  ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 22:01
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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23mm on my 205, although its mainly a track car don't find it a problem when road driving________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 22:26
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro  Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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21mm is the largest you can get from factory fit that will fit our beams but i'm sure you can get bigger custom made ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 22:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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I have 23mm on my ZX, works great with 180 lb front springs  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 00:32
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jord294
Seasoned Pro  Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,103 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I have 23mm on my ZX, works great with 180 lb front springs Any joy in finding another shell? There's a breakers near me with a complete Ming blue sort of colour volcane ________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 00:56
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I have 23mm on my ZX, works great with 180 lb front springs they not a factory item though are they ? ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 08:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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nope, only cost £200 though.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 09:47
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Whats wrong with the shell then? Rust?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 09:50
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: nope, only cost £200 though. Not too bad really when you think 10-15 year old xsara bars sell for £80-120 ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 10:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: Whats wrong with the shell then? Rust? big dent. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 10:43
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Damn.... Crash?Pug1off do 22mm bars btw ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 22:44
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atterz
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stafford Registered: 18 Feb 2011 Posts: 1,134 Status: Offline |
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Lol @ big dent. You could say that!________________________________________ owain wrote: A GTI-6 with a good dashboard and the seats down can outsprint an E46 M3 in July. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2012 at 00:10
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
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I found 23.5mm bars miles too stiff for road use, back end used to take off over spee bumps, and back end traction over bumpy roads was a bit arse twitchery. On fast smooth roads (aka race tracks) they were brilliant, but I wouldn't use them for road use, stick to 21mm. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2012 at 00:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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which dampers did you use Pete?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2012 at 11:45
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
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That was with standard KW V2's, probably massively under damped. I have the same on my BTCC 306 and on the odd occasion I 'test' it up and down my road the back end still takes of over speed bumps, and thats with perfectly balanced Penske shocks...________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2012 at 21:26
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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I use KW V2's on 21mm bars, excellent fast road setup IMO. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Feb 2012 at 21:27
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peugeot96
Regular Location: verdal Registered: 14 Sep 2011 Posts: 218 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: I believe the Partner vans use 21mm, if I remember correctly. I am currently running 21mm, and they seem fine to me. I also have a 30mm anti-roll bar, solid beam mounts, KW dampers and lowered 40mm from standard. Tyres are R888's, and the back-end seems planted. What other mods have you had done to the rear beam? Im running on solid rear mounts and the car is fitted with Supersport coilovers. 21mm tbs and 24mm arb. Will soon fit Bilstein b6 and hybrid arb. Maybe that will help? |
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Posted 25th Feb 2012 at 13:35
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #23
In my opinion the 30mm ARB does make a massive difference to the rear-end. It really compliments the rest of the mods to the rear beam I have found. If you fit the hybrid ARB you will see a positive difference, but personally I would go for the 30mm. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 25th Feb 2012 at 17:24
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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Is there much difference with the 21mm bars over the standard 19mm gti6 bars? I have a spare beam here I am thinking of rebuilding with bigger torsion bars and solid mounts along with my koni shocks. Will mainey be for road use with the occassional track day. What do you all recomend?________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 25th Feb 2012 at 18:54
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Eddy - The standard bars are 20mm not 19mm. The difference every 1mm makes on size is roughly 25% stiffer, so yes, there is quite a large difference.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 25th Feb 2012 at 18:58
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