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prism7guy

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Post #26
OK, thanks for letting me know.

I'll be in touch in a couple of months as i'm after a few bits from you guys. Smile

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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 18:55
welshpug!

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any idea of a supplier? first i've heard of that Unsure

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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 19:38
allanallen

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Post #28
welshpug! wrote:
any idea of a supplier? first i've heard of that Unsure


Bilstein uk as far as I know. I'll be happy to be told different as it was something we wanted to do ourselves.

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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 21:14
rallyeash

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i'll take a set of the TRE kits and wishbone bump steer kits if you can confirm pricing delivered to me please. both will fit 205/309 running gear yeah?

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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 21:40
vts_tibi

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Post #30
Which trailing arms would be the best to modify?

Xsara ; 306 or ZX ?


I have the following data (copied from Sandy's post over 205GTI):


Year--Model--Rear toe in (mm)--Rear negative camber(degrees/minutes)

1985-92--205 GTi 1.6+1.9/Rallye--3.60--0/50

1985-92--205+309 base--3.10--0/50

1993on--205 Cab+van+base--3.40--0/50

1986-90--309GTi--3.80--0/50

1990-93--309GTi+GTi16S--5.00--1/15

1994on--306 S16+GTi6--4.20--1/20

1997on--306 1.8 16v--3.40--1/20

1998on Xsara base--4.50--1/20

1998on Xsara VTS--5.00--1/20

1993on ZX base+16v--0.00-1/00

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Posted 16th Jan 2013 at 21:43
welshpug!

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Post #31
doesn't matter which you start with.

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Posted 16th Jan 2013 at 22:20
allanallen

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Post #32
welshpug! wrote:
doesn't matter which you start with.


Correct, it doesn't really matter but some 205 arms end up about 1.5mm a side narrower than a 306 arm. Not worth losing sleep over though :p

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Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 13:00
vts_tibi

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Post #33
welshpug! wrote:
doesn't matter which you start with.


I know it does not matter for camber, my question was related to the toe. Or will the modified trailing arms have certain degrees of toe regardless of the original amount?

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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 20:13
welshpug!

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yep.

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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 20:22
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Post #35
Just a quick bump to say I'll be at pugfest this year if anyone wants to drop off any uprights or rear arms to save yourself the postage 😉

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Posted 10th Jul 2013 at 07:06
beez_neez_gt

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Post #36
In the future is it possible to replace the ball joint on 309 bones at all, as a service ?

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Posted 19th Aug 2013 at 00:09
allanallen

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Post #37
No it isn't, you can't get the joints asfaik and they're an utter bas**rd to get out anyway. There's a company around that fits spherical bearings (not rose joints) into standard oe arms. Obviously various companies make rose jointed bottom arms too. It's not something we're looking at doing though.

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Posted 19th Aug 2013 at 06:18
skalman

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Post #38
I bought a lovely supercharged Rallye from a member here earlier this summer and about the only thing I want to change about it is to add some negative camber in the front.

I'm looking for -2,5 degrees, is it possible to get that much with only the hubs?

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:09
pugheaven

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Post #39
Iirc you can only get upto -1.5 degrees on the hubs
Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:39
calibra306

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Definatly could do a bump steer kit!

Any avaliable and is ya price posted

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:56
allanallen

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Post #41
We can machine hubs with up to -5degrees depending on the hub casting. All hubs will take -4 though so -2.5 is no problem.

No bumpsteer kits sorry.

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 16:36
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What about tyre to strut clearance?

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 17:05
allanallen

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Post #43
midlife wrote:
What about tyre to strut clearance?

Cool


Depends on wheels, tyres,struts, springs etc etc. 2.25 dampers with standard wheels and tyres will take -3, although you may need to run shorter springs depending on length/poundage.
If you let me know what you're running I can give you a rough idea of what you'll get away with
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 17:15
beez_neez_gt

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Post #44
Any idea on availability of the ARB end plate bushes yet Alan ?

Also when do you expact more of the bump steer parts to be for sale again ?

What would the best offset of wheels be for -3 both 205 n 6 be ?

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 18:27
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Post #45
both things I've needed not available. Oh well!

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 20:16
allanallen

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Post #46
As I've said numerous times, bumpsteer and roll centre kits aren't available, I'll post up as soon as there is any progress.

George, arb bushes are available, I'll send you payment details when I'm back at work next week. Wheel offset depends on width,diameter, tyre size aswell as what dampers you're using.
A standard dampered 205 with standard wheels and tyres will take -3plus negative camber. A standard 306 gti6 is the same off the top of my head.

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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 20:33
beez_neez_gt

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Post #47
Ok thanks Alan, I dont use oe wheels for the 205, I use c5 and another set of 7j with et10 iirc and always use 195's. Its the 7j im more worried about but since iirc standard wheels are et8 they should be enough.

Ill aim for -3 then all being well, pm me the price to buy 205 hubs done to match -3 with 309 bones when you are ready with the bushes. Ill save the current ones as spare set, makes it easier if you do have a spare set that is.

Im still waiting on the ARB to be splined, they are waiting on others to do aswel so they are waiting to do them all in one go.

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Posted 30th Aug 2013 at 23:06
allanallen

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Standard wheels are et19. What tyres do you use and is it a road car? -3 is alot for a road car, you'll get poor tyre life on the front, the backs not as sensitive. We'd recomend that much for a track car running 1b tyres.

The price is £145 to machine the hubs, if I source the hubs price is dependant on what I can get, they'll be supplied to you in a used condition and may need new bearings fitting which I can do at extra cost.

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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 08:42
beez_neez_gt

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Post #49
I'm thinking of the SL434's being ET8, the ones I have are defo ET10 using R888, Goodyear Eagle F1's. The car is a fast road semi track car so with your advice i'll go for -2 if that's the best max amount without overuse of the tyre tread.

Yes that's fine, I will be fitting new bearings in myself anyways after being painted up. Im fine with the hubs as long as they are the 1.9 type, we'll see what we can sort out with them.

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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 12:49
allanallen

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The hubs will just be 16mm items not necessarily off a 205 as they're getting difficult to source.

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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 12:52

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