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m306

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hi guys, in my 4 years on the road i've never had any issues with the police or committed any offences so i don't know how the laws work, but i'm hoping a few of you guys might have the information i'm looking for. oh and before you ask, i've tried searching but only found info on much more serious cases.

ok so heres the issue, i had a visit from the police today, but wasn't in because i was at work, so they phoned me through my dad. i have to go into the station the weekend about a claimed dangerous driving offence that i'm not even aware happened. apparently i was seen by an off duty cop overtaking in a bad place at night last week. i've heard they may give me points, a fine, disqualification or take the car away?

can they actually do anything though as i wasn't stopped by anyone at the time. i think it was one officer, and he was off duty. i have no idea how he got my plate if it was dark and i was driving that dangerously. and i don't think i've had a NIP?

i dont think i was doing anything wrong, its winter and i'm driving carefully because i don't want to crash and don't want any offences, anything like that could send insurance prices stupidly high, hence why i feel i'm driving reasonably safely and cannot remember said incident.

do they have a case? and do i have a case to argue it if they go ahead?

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:13
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I'd start by asking what hard evidence they have. I'm pretty sure one man's word against anothers is a stalemate situation. I may, however, be wrong.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:18
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Just tell them you was driving dangerously because you live for the 306 and they will understand, don't worry.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:21
m306

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yeah thats what i was hoping. also, is there actually a way to prove dangerous driving? or is peoples word enough?

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:22
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buzzbrightyear wrote:
Just tell them you was driving dangerously because you live for the 306 and they will understand, don't worry.

i hear that worked for Jamma?

EDIT, i dont feel i was driving dangerously. ive been saving up for a '6 for 5 years, kept a clean license for the 4 years ive been driving. anything now will probably ruin my plans for sc in summer

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:23
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Dangerous driving is a very serious offence, they cannot take it to court or convict you of Somthing so serious or anything else without evidence, and they haven't got any, tell him to get a life and leavehis job at work.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:27
m306

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buzzbrightyear wrote:
Dangerous driving is a very serious offence, they cannot take it to court or convict you of Somthing so serious or anything else without evidence, and they haven't got any, tell him to get a life and leavehis job at work.

yeah i was panicking when i read online that it can get like 2 years in jail Shock so seems a very serious offence.

do you think it will just be a stern telling off then?

what if there was 2 of them? am i likely to be in trouble then?

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:34
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My mate had a letter through saying he was getting 3 points for being spotted going over a level crossing. When he asked for proof he was told they would let him off with a warning.

If i were you i'd say you couldn't remember anything specific so could you have more details on where & when and whatever evidence they have that it was you. Wouldn't be an arsehole about it i'd just ask for proof and deny it.

Either you were driving like a c*nt or the off duty copper is a jobsworth. I wouldn't worry about it too much as its difficult to prove and I'm not sure his word will count for as much as it usually would as he was off duty and you weren't stopped at the time.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:35
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No hard evidence mate, tell em to do one! Where was this supposed to have happened?

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:38
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As above, I think they are just trying it on! Guns

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:41
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bennn wrote:
My mate had a letter through saying he was getting 3 points for being spotted going over a level crossing. When he asked for proof he was told they would let him off with a warning.

If i were you i'd say you couldn't remember anything specific so could you have more details on where & when and whatever evidence they have that it was you. Wouldn't be an arsehole about it i'd just ask for proof and deny it.

Either you were driving like a c*nt or the off duty copper is a jobsworth. I wouldn't worry about it too much as its difficult to prove and I'm not sure his word will count for as much as it usually would as he was off duty and you weren't stopped at the time.

i think their evidence, from what my dad told me, is that he seen me overtaking 3 cars and he named the place where it happened. but so far it is just his word afaik.

i will say i cant remember it as i honestly cant, i know i do overtake on that stretch of road occasionally as its a good passing place but 3 seems a little excessive and unlikely Dunno

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:42
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wilyoldave wrote:
No hard evidence mate, tell em to do one! Where was this supposed to have happened?

coming out of melplash towards beaminster, theres a lovely passing place there. theres no houses or anything there, just a slight kink in the road which actually helps to see around the cars

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:47
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don't worry about it, and if you get a warning, don't accept it, you can't gay warned
For somithing you havnt done.

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:50
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How is overtaking 3 cars dangerous driving? Dunno , as long as its a straight piece of road and clear what's the problem? ask for proof, then deny it was dd, then tell them to do one (nicely) Thumbs up

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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 19:52
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I had the same years ago near enough.

I overtook a fire rescue Land Rover in the 6 on a sweeping dual carriageway bend. I realistically was only doing 70. I pulled in front and thought nothing of it. Police called at my parents house the next day and told them I needed to contact them. I belled the old bill, and he demanded I visited the station. So I whipped back to the station and he met me round the back while washing his police car. He told me 'off the record' - his words, that I was seen by his 'mate' and they both run a speed awareness course. It would seem I would benefit from the course. I mentioned that it was a member of fire staff that saw me, in a land rover with no measuring equipment. He agreed and said that I can either pay £30, get 2 kartin sessions and watch a video or fight it. As the karting was retailing at £28 I thought it was a good call for the hassle of fighting it. I was even allowed to take a mate along. He had to watch the video though.

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    allesclar

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    tell them where to go Smile

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:03
    m306

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    overtaking 3 cars could be considered dangerous on a b road i guess, Dunno but if anything was coming towards me then i obviously wouldnt of done it. i think he miscounted though, 3 seems too many, i normally consider it not worth the hassle when its more than 2.

    Dan- do you mean karting as in go karting? that sounds like fun.

    oh and ive seen the video, i voluntarily went to yeovil fire station to watch it with some guys from work, was a real eye opener

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:08
    m306

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    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    don't worry about it, and if you get a warning, don't accept it, you can't gay warned
    For somithing you havnt done.

    why shouldnt i accept a warning? isnt that going to be the easy way out?

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:09
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    I'd ignore it don't bother going to the police station and see if they take any further action ? Let the feckers come to you if they want to talk ? No evidence means no conviction Thumbs up
    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:13
    m306

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    bigbadbowen wrote:
    I'd ignore it don't bother going to the police station and see if they take any further action ? Let the feckers come to you if they want to talk ? No evidence means no conviction Thumbs up

    i'd love to but my old man knows a few of the local cops and he's a c*nt so i think i would get more hassle that way

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:16
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    m306 wrote:
    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    don't worry about it, and if you get a warning, don't accept it, you can't gay warned
    For somithing you havnt done.

    why shouldnt i accept a warning? isnt that going to be the easy way out?

    Well you wasn't driving dangerously was you?
    why get warned for Somthing you havnt done?

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:16
    brownboy

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    i would speak to a solicitor and also if you do go to cop shop do not admit to anything and just say no comment !!

    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:19
    m306

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    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    m306 wrote:
    buzzbrightyear wrote:
    don't worry about it, and if you get a warning, don't accept it, you can't gay warned
    For somithing you havnt done.

    why shouldnt i accept a warning? isnt that going to be the easy way out?

    Well you wasn't driving dangerously was you?
    why get warned for Somthing you havnt done?


    well i dont think i was, i tend to remember my 'change of pants' moments and i havent had any for a long time so i dont consider what i am supposed to have done as dangerous.

    but i dont want to fight a warning if there is a chance it could backfire on me. what is a warning? does it affect your license or insurance?

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:20
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    This happened to a mate of mine where a member of the public stated that he overtook on a blind bend.

    He was told to go to his local station.

    He stated that he had no recollection of driving in a dangerous fashion.

    They had no evidence and so no case.

    Admit f*ck all mate you should be fine.

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    Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 20:21
    m306

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    footah212 wrote:
    This happened to a mate of mine where a member of the public stated that he overtook on a blind bend.

    He was told to go to his local station.

    He stated that he had no recolection of driving in a dangerous fashion.

    They had no evidence and so no case.

    Admit f*ck all mate you should be fine.

    would it be any different though if the person accusing is a cop?

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