Post #26
Nope it would have properly let go by now
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 bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 07:15
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Sounds like bottom end to me too in the video, but it might not be if you say it sounds totally different in the flesh Aaron...A bottom end which is not too badly damaged would probably go on for 200miles+ if you weren't driving it hard, however, the 3-bolt design vernier pulleys wouldn't last that long, as once they shatter the cambelt would be thrown pretty soon afterwards. Definitely worth a check though. In answer to your question Aaron, the earlier design pulley generally fails where the three small 10mm bolts go through the pulley, it cracks around the bolt holes and then fails completely. Good luck Mich, keep us updated. Stan.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 07:17
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gazzerdaman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 10,283 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I would be surprised if it had the three bolt pulley design as it's a Phase III (V reg iirc) - unless the engine has been swapped before________________________________________ GaryCherry Red GTi 6 |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 09:45
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Its an s plate phase 2. Ah, it sounds as if a lifter is loose in it collet or something like that and is very high up the engine or so it appears at least. Very strange. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 10:52
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Oh all these things to check  i will go in to the garage with a print off this so they can check it all. I am still driving it but keeping well below 3000 revs oh and i toniced it dont make the noise when i go down hill with foot on acelerator, weird!! ________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 10:55
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #31
poogiepug1 wrote: Oh all these things to check i will go in to the garage with a print off this so they can check it all. I am still driving it but keeping well below 3000 revs oh and i toniced it dont make the noise when i go down hill with foot on acelerator, weird!! Reduced load on the engine, point to big end issues. I had a RS escort once that did the big ends due to oil surge on a trackday. Drove back from Donington at 40mph and it hardly rattled at all on the overrun or down hills. What were you doing when you noticed the noise? ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #32
please STOP driving it.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:16
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aaron6
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Post #33
Loads of life left in that... Keep us posted michelle. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:26
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aaron6
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Post #34
Loads of life left in that... Keep us posted michelle. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #35
You might as well just start budgeting for a replacement engine if you keep on driving.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:34
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #36
A f*cked bottom end would go on much longer than a broken up cam pulley would. I don't know about these engines but I've heard diesels with a knocking bottom end still going 6 months later. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:35
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I wouldnt be driving it full stop.My luck would be the rod would end up exiting the block, straight through the air con pipes and rad for good measure. At the moment its fixable without too much expense. If it lets go completley, its a different story ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:40
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #38
On average, how much for a bottom end rebuild? Cheaper for replacement engine?________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #39
much the same, though you can't guarantee how long a replacement engine will last, if you are going to use the car I'd rebuild, if you're going to chuck it soon dump an used one in.bottom end bearings £100, regrind £100 (as its been knocking it will need one) second hand conrod, few quid (because the bearing spun and made the rod oval) check the head+ skim if req, £100. head gasket £40, bolts £15. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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buzzbrightyear wrote: A f*cked bottom end would go on much longer than a broken up cam pulley would. I don't know about these engines but I've heard diesels with a knocking bottom end still going 6 months later. doubtful, that's more likely to be diesel knock, sounds quite similar. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:50
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #41
It happened last week when my acelarator got stuck on 4-5000 revs, it did it the week before and stuck on 6000 revs (but was fine that time). It is going to a garage on Wednesday just down the road from me. I will stop driving it________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 12:42
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #42
I want to keep the car so may get it rebuilt if it just needs what is posted above? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 12:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #43
if you stop driving now yeah, you'll need to add labour to that of course.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 13:33
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Ok, thanks Am also looking at option of engine that has already been rebuilt then can just drop it in to mine________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 13:43
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Just be careful with recon engine's, I'd ask what has been done as it could just be a S/H unit with a oil change is nothing was found to be wrong with it, the joy's of the word Recon I'm afraid________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 14:21
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Other option is buy a late Xsara VTS for a few hundred quid and then you can test the engine first at least, Then just swap them over________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 14:24
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bennn
Seasoned Pro  Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,705 Status: Offline |
Post #47
miles wrote: Other option is buy a late Xsara VTS for a few hundred quid and then you can test the engine first at least, Then just swap them over That's a very good idea, you can break / scrap the rest of it and get a bit of money back too. ________________________________________ Cherry Red 306 HDIChampionship White Integra DC5 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 14:34
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I'll keep an eye out for a good engine for you Mich....________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 20:29
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Yes if you could, my dad said he would treat me bless him as he knows i love my car (sometimes!!)________________________________________ |
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Posted 4th Jan 2012 at 09:39
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