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willygti

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You pass a police car coming opposite direction, a few moments later decide to give your car a spirt of speed for 100meters coming out of a 20mph zone (no other cars or people around). Moments later blue lights a fair way behind coming after you, pull over to side of road straight away and a pair of regular bobbies in a regular panda car pull in behind (the same car had passed minutes ago). You are invited into the back of their car for a 'chat'.

You are given a 'producer' and threatened with a ban for driving like an 'idiot'. How far would said case go without any 'evidence'.. i.e miles behind you playing catch up when the 'offence' took place and no photographic/video evidence?

Not that this happened to myself or anything.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:07
davidmartin

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IIRC ,their opinion is enough for them to go on.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:11
charlie

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"Yes officer, no officer" ... Produce the documents ... Forget about it.
Unless they told you they are pursuing a case.
Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:27
simonjames

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As there was 2 of them there is a rock solid case against you

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:32
davidmartin

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Happy birthday Simon,You must be getting on a bit now LOL

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:34
willygti

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Hmmm, they did say they will be taking it to court. One of them was a bit of a jobsworth.. the other was a noob. I just don't see how you can prove excessive speed with no monitoring equipment and covering such a short distance of 'offensive' driving..

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:38
davidmartin

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I think there was something like this on here years ago,were someone was done and the police couldn't see much of the road ,but was done because the police said it looked and sounded as if he was speeding.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:44
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I was pulled for a similar incident I had to overtake a bus to avoid a collision Wave

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 00:50
ian7675

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You wouldn't be prosecuted for speeding as there is no actual evidence of any speed....however, it would be for "undue care and attention" whilst driving for which the Officers statements would be sufficient enough evidence if you so wished to go to court.

You wouldn't be threatened with a ban by an Officer though, that's up to the court.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:44
willygti

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what are the usual outcomes of undue care and attention then? clean licence thus far..

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:46
ian7675

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willygti wrote:
what are the usual outcomes of undue care and attention then? clean licence thus far..


I couldn't be 100% with the answer but probably a standard 3 points at the roadside but if it goes to court then who knows. I expect darren9 is your man for a better answer Thumbs up

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:49
willygti

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Yeh all I got was a producer for now. Wierdd??

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:51
ian7675

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willygti wrote:
Yeh all I got was a producer for now. Wierdd??


That's good, just produce and carry on with life.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:53
CUJ

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http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/offences/careless_driving.htm

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 09:53
simonjames

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davidmartin wrote:
Happy birthday Simon,You must be getting on a bit now LOL


Cheers mate i feel older than i am somedays Smile


Due car and attension is usually 3-9 points depending on how bad the offence, i got a 4 pointer for doing 38mph in a 30 zone due it being on the approach to a corner that had a primary school the other side and it was 8.45 in the morning but only a few weeks later got court doing 109mph in a 50 (was late at night) police officer (a family friend) was on his own and the calirabion on the gun wasn't up to date so he sent me on my way and told me not to do it anything like that again

I think it all depends on the copper thats pulled you over tbh

P.S all above done in my young and stupid days and i dont drive like that now, points dont make prizes Sad

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 10:11
buzzbrightyear

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I got coaxed into flooring it on country lane in me mondeo by a skoda Octavia vrs near home.
When i hit 105 on a massive straight uphill section, blue lights came on in it's grill I couldn't belive it.
A telling of and a few cheeky smirks later and he sent me on my way, funny thing is he never said slow down you could hurt yourself an others, he said slow down your going to wear your car and engine out.
he was just upset he couldn't gain anything on me up the hill in the higher gears, he made a point if reminding me i was in a diesel lol

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 10:25
willygti

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CUJ wrote:
http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/offences/careless_driving.htm



CUJ that site is seems rife with factual stuff mixed with scare tactics to tempt you into paying them to represent you LOL

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 10:28
willygti

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So i guess i wait and see what comes through the post in next few days/weeks.

PC plod seemed to think i'd just committed the crime of the century Wink

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 10:30
buzzbrightyear

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I thought this didn't happen to you lol

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 10:53
cress87

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I guessed you were coming back to the forum for a reason. Laugh

No idea what a likely outcome would be though.

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 14:02
jord294

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These days the police already know if the car is legal, so i don't understand why they asked to provide a producer

I got stopped for some spirited driving last week. Officer, who breathalysed me already new my name, and asked if I was heading to my home address

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 14:24
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http://www.pepipoo.com/

Sort the producer out, see if the police do anything after that, then get advice

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 14:29
simonjames

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If they plan on giving points (aand not taking further to court) when you produce your licience they will keep it

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Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 14:35
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Stop driving like a complete bell end Thumbs up
Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 15:18
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Without evidence they don't have a leg to stand on your word against theirs ? Do the producer then don't worry about it.
Posted 18th Dec 2011 at 15:52

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