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hovis16

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man up and get it matt......you'll love it mate. as for the nosie mine comes and goes Huh? odd i no

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 08:11
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Cant say i've had any issues with mine.

Only thing i have noticed is when you switch the engine on the rev counter shoots up to about 1.5k/2k and then goes down to rest as normal.

It that this noise everyone is referring to?
Cant say i've noticed anything else.

But yes the car will rev alot more freely and with an almost standard 6 that pulls absurdly well like yours does, you will love it.

The whole driving experience just feels alot more effortless

You shouldnt have to worry about teeth breaking off as if you buy new it will be machined from the stronger metal.

They are something to look at too, really nice, shame its inside your gearbox when in use LOL

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 08:22
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Yup. Mate of mine had a lightened one which was great, then the starter destroyed it. He's now got a new lightened one, and gets "the noise".

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 09:14
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Mine makes a zingy noise too.. f*ck it I'm sure it will be ok.
Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 09:45
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can we keep this noise discussion going in the transmission>lighten fly noise thread please? having it in 2 places is getting confusing.

as for the original question, get one Matt, its a good noticeable improvement, once it's started LOL

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 10:38
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Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged.


think it was some sort of alignment problem that was solved by putting a washer on the top fixing thus pushing the starter up slightly so that the starter when engaged does not fit so tight to the flywheel. a pain to fit that washer in though. flywheel just catches the starter when engaged.....although this may hae been just mine but that is how we fixed it. dont know why it happened, maybe the flywheel sits closer to the crank ? i dont know

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 13:07
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gtisid wrote:
paul_13 wrote:
Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged.


think it was some sort of alignment problem that was solved by putting a washer on the top fixing thus pushing the starter up slightly so that the starter when engaged does not fit so tight to the flywheel. a pain to fit that washer in though. flywheel just catches the starter when engaged.....although this may hae been just mine but that is how we fixed it. dont know why it happened, maybe the flywheel sits closer to the crank ? i dont know

this may be a stupid question but im asking because i dont know much about how the starter fits... so is there a risk that if its spaced with a washer that is too thick then it might skip teeth?

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 13:31
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Post #33
So I'm guessing all will be fine with the dowes present Dunno

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 17:53
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So I'm guessing all will be fine with the dowes present Dunno

nope, my dowels should be present, and a few others have dowels present too.

can anyone answer my spacing the starter question? would like to know more detail on that please?

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 17:54
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How many times have we had this conversation Matthew, get it bought!

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:18
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How many times have we had this conversation Matthew, get it bought!


sorry william. i was just unsure and now im scared of my starter eating it for breakfast.

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:28
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:29
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Yours is fine, M306 it does sound more metallic than a normal one because of the metal, In simple term's like hitting different grades of metal when hanging,
It's the same on my mega-miler with the ting but the teeth are fine, You can see them if you look at the top of the box under the Throttle body

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:06
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Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:25
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miles wrote:
Yours is fine, M306 it does sound more metallic than a normal one because of the metal, In simple term's like hitting different grades of metal when hanging,
It's the same on my mega-miler with the ting but the teeth are fine, You can see them if you look at the top of the box under the Throttle body

thanks Miles Thumbs up i think you may of just put a few peoples minds at ease about this with your explanation. if your high miler is ok then we should all be ok too.

in that case, nothing to worry about Matt, get one. you won't regret it

EDIT: except gman, that sounds like a bad problem

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:28
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Is the starter ring not hardened on these? If so how are teeth getting damaged? If it is hardened is it harder than the starter motor seens a thats the consumable.

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:07
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f*ck it then im having one! My engine seems eager anyway so I should notice a gain. Does it improve acceleration to? Also gonna get a rallye delete kit Big grin

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:29
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
f*ck it then im having one! My engine seems eager anyway so I should notice a gain. Does it improve acceleration to? Also gonna get a rallye delete kit Big grin

free-er revving = better acceleration in the lower gears Big grin search through the threads about them Matt, thats what i did, everyone says its a good upgrade. just don't blame me if you get 'the noise' too

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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:45
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gman wrote:
Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged


What batch did yours come from?

Is it the whole tooth being damaged or just one side?

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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 09:31
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Would also put money aside for a new Clutch, and maybe a clutch cable change while it's all out.
Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 09:35
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Ive had a close look at mine and it tends to come and go,as miles said the only thing i can see it being is the harder compound that the new flys come withHuh? i do bloody love mine,and i still havent been over 4000rpm yet Hyper

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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:16
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jungle jim wrote:
gman wrote:
Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged


What batch did yours come from?

Is it the whole tooth being damaged or just one side?


Mine was from a new batch and was fitted around August this year. It's just the tops of the teeth that are getting worn, its almost like the starter is just skimming the tops of the teeth.

Pics of my flywheel can be found in this thread: bas**rd flywheel

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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:22
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That certainly looks like damage is being caused Thumbs down the starter dowels look fine though Crazy

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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:52
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I don't know that much about the starters on these cars, but surely the amount of people all having this problem at the same time would imply there must be some kind of problem? I fail to believe that everyone who's fitted one has missed a dowel, or bought the same wrong starter.

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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:58
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owain wrote:
I don't know that much about the starters on these cars, but surely the amount of people all having this problem at the same time would imply there must be some kind of problem? I fail to believe that everyone who's fitted one has missed a dowel, or bought the same wrong starter.


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