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 hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,297 Status: Offline |
Post #26
man up and get it matt......you'll love it mate. as for the nosie mine comes and goes  odd i no________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
 Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 08:11
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Cant say i've had any issues with mine.Only thing i have noticed is when you switch the engine on the rev counter shoots up to about 1.5k/2k and then goes down to rest as normal. It that this noise everyone is referring to? Cant say i've noticed anything else. But yes the car will rev alot more freely and with an almost standard 6 that pulls absurdly well like yours does, you will love it. The whole driving experience just feels alot more effortless You shouldnt have to worry about teeth breaking off as if you buy new it will be machined from the stronger metal. They are something to look at too, really nice, shame its inside your gearbox when in use  Edit; i can pop over later if you like and you can take her out for a spin, see what you think...? Shes running sweet apart from a blowing exhaust which needs attention ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 08:22
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Yup. Mate of mine had a lightened one which was great, then the starter destroyed it. He's now got a new lightened one, and gets "the noise". ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 09:14
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Mine makes a zingy noise too.. f*ck it I'm sure it will be ok. |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 09:45
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m306
Seasoned Pro  Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #30
can we keep this noise discussion going in the transmission>lighten fly noise thread please? having it in 2 places is getting confusing.as for the original question, get one Matt, its a good noticeable improvement, once it's started ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 10:38
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gtisid
Seasoned Pro  Location: chelmsford Registered: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 4,992 Status: Offline |
Post #31
paul_13 wrote: Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged. think it was some sort of alignment problem that was solved by putting a washer on the top fixing thus pushing the starter up slightly so that the starter when engaged does not fit so tight to the flywheel. a pain to fit that washer in though. flywheel just catches the starter when engaged.....although this may hae been just mine but that is how we fixed it. dont know why it happened, maybe the flywheel sits closer to the crank ? i dont know ________________________________________ puglessPhase 1 GTI 6 1996-1997 Subaru Impreza GB270 2007-2008 rare spiderman comics same day international courier |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 13:07
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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gtisid wrote: paul_13 wrote: Seems to be a problem on a few of them now. I know of 3. 2 are from a new batch. Makes a odd noise when the starter is engaged. think it was some sort of alignment problem that was solved by putting a washer on the top fixing thus pushing the starter up slightly so that the starter when engaged does not fit so tight to the flywheel. a pain to fit that washer in though. flywheel just catches the starter when engaged.....although this may hae been just mine but that is how we fixed it. dont know why it happened, maybe the flywheel sits closer to the crank ? i dont know this may be a stupid question but im asking because i dont know much about how the starter fits... so is there a risk that if its spaced with a washer that is too thick then it might skip teeth? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 13:31
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #33
So I'm guessing all will be fine with the dowes present  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 17:53
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #34
mattgti6phase2 wrote: So I'm guessing all will be fine with the dowes present nope, my dowels should be present, and a few others have dowels present too. can anyone answer my spacing the starter question? would like to know more detail on that please? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 17:54
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will130787
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
Post #35
How many times have we had this conversation Matthew, get it bought!________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 owner Also an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp.... Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306  |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:18
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #36
will130787 wrote: How many times have we had this conversation Matthew, get it bought! sorry william. i was just unsure and now im scared of my starter eating it for breakfast. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:28
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Stuwee
Senior User  Location: st albans Registered: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 739 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Decision time.......________________________________________ Ph1 Cossack 6 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 20:29
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Yours is fine, M306 it does sound more metallic than a normal one because of the metal, In simple term's like hitting different grades of metal when hanging,It's the same on my mega-miler with the ting but the teeth are fine, You can see them if you look at the top of the box under the Throttle body ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:06
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gman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:25
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #40
miles wrote: Yours is fine, M306 it does sound more metallic than a normal one because of the metal, In simple term's like hitting different grades of metal when hanging, It's the same on my mega-miler with the ting but the teeth are fine, You can see them if you look at the top of the box under the Throttle body thanks Miles  i think you may of just put a few peoples minds at ease about this with your explanation. if your high miler is ok then we should all be ok too.in that case, nothing to worry about Matt, get one. you won't regret it EDIT: except gman, that sounds like a bad problem ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 21:28
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Is the starter ring not hardened on these? If so how are teeth getting damaged? If it is hardened is it harder than the starter motor seens a thats the consumable.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:07
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #42
f*ck it then im having one! My engine seems eager anyway so I should notice a gain. Does it improve acceleration to? Also gonna get a rallye delete kit  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:29
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #43
mattgti6phase2 wrote: f*ck it then im having one! My engine seems eager anyway so I should notice a gain. Does it improve acceleration to? Also gonna get a rallye delete kit free-er revving = better acceleration in the lower gears search through the threads about them Matt, thats what i did, everyone says its a good upgrade. just don't blame me if you get 'the noise' too________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 30th Oct 2011 at 22:45
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jungle jim
Senior User  Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #44
gman wrote: Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged What batch did yours come from? Is it the whole tooth being damaged or just one side? ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 09:31
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techdw
Senior User  Location: Kent Registered: 28 Sep 2010 Posts: 897 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Would also put money aside for a new Clutch, and maybe a clutch cable change while it's all out. |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 09:35
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,297 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Ive had a close look at mine and it tends to come and go,as miles said the only thing i can see it being is the harder compound that the new flys come with i do bloody love mine,and i still havent been over 4000rpm yet  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:16
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gman
Seasoned Pro Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #47
jungle jim wrote: gman wrote: Miles, as you will see from mine (when I finally get it down to you), I get the ting noise but the flywheel teeth are getting damaged What batch did yours come from? Is it the whole tooth being damaged or just one side? Mine was from a new batch and was fitted around August this year. It's just the tops of the teeth that are getting worn, its almost like the starter is just skimming the tops of the teeth. Pics of my flywheel can be found in this thread: bas**rd flywheel ________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:22
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #48
That certainly looks like damage is being caused  the starter dowels look fine though  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:52
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I don't know that much about the starters on these cars, but surely the amount of people all having this problem at the same time would imply there must be some kind of problem? I fail to believe that everyone who's fitted one has missed a dowel, or bought the same wrong starter.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 10:58
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gman
Seasoned Pro Location: Didcot Registered: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,471 Status: Offline |
Post #50
owain wrote: I don't know that much about the starters on these cars, but surely the amount of people all having this problem at the same time would imply there must be some kind of problem? I fail to believe that everyone who's fitted one has missed a dowel, or bought the same wrong starter. +1 ________________________________________ 1992 Onyx Black 205 GTI-62005 Honda S2000 (Sold) 2002 Audi S3 (Sold) 2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold) |
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Posted 31st Oct 2011 at 11:15
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