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Author Subject: 1.8 xu7 with gti6 power?
dan86

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Post #1
I'm interested to know if it's possible to build an alloy engine using parts from other xu engines to make roughly 160/170hp. I'm sure its not as easy as that but wondered if any of you had tried or built something similar. RS head and manifolds? or would it be better to start with a 2l EW from a 206 gti?

I remember driving my 205 gti 1.9 and thinking what a difference having a light engine made to a cars handling. It was so direct and felt like the sidewalls of the tyres were well within their comfort zone. I love the "6" to bits but if could change one thing about it I would swap the lump of pig iron in the front for some aluminium.

I wouldnt want any more power than a standard "6" but want less weight. :therisa406forsaleverynearmegoingcheapwithaonepointeightlitrealuminiumenginesmiley

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 15:50
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Post #2
yes, quite easily, there's a couple of XU7 builds on 205gtidrivers, 28craig was the most recent IIRC.

EW is a good choice too apparently, they do make more qorque than the XU for some reason, the longman 190 kit on the 138 engine made 170 bhp with stock cams, throttle bodies and a manifold.

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 15:55
dan86

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Post #3
Does the EW fit in a 306 and do they sit at the right angle for gearbox or are they tilted more upright?

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 15:59
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they are more upright, but not a problem if you use the original box from whatever car the engine comes from.

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 17:20
eliotrw

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Better still how much would it cost for a aluminium block to be made up Razz I'm thinking several k :S

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 17:45
welshpug!

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Post #6
no need, EW is 1.8 2.0 and 2.2 alloy blocks dry lined.

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 17:50
dan86

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Post #7
My lounge is dry lined...

So a BE3/6 is off the cards for an EW then?

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 19:54
welshpug!

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Post #8
not totally, i have seen a 5 speed be bellhousing modified to take the 6 speed shafts, will see if i can fond the link

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 20:50
eliotrw

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So basically there is an existing block that fits a 6 head and would run the same spec and is aluminium?

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Posted 15th Oct 2011 at 22:04
welshpug!

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no need for a gti6 head.

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Posted 15th Oct 2011 at 22:19
eliotrw

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Post #11
Basically what I want is a gti6 engine and gear box without a heavy ass block, is it possible?
Why no need for the head? Surely it won't be the same spec.

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Posted 6th Nov 2011 at 11:42
dragoon

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Post #12
I recall a dyno print from a modified xu7jp4 you gave me once Mei.
The one with gti cams/both manifolds/reworked head/remap etc...
That one was pushing out 160 to 165bhp.

*edit* found it:

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Posted 6th Nov 2011 at 12:45
welshpug!

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gti6 head is a bit big really for the smaller capacity engines, XU10 would work, or the XU7 ported.

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Posted 6th Nov 2011 at 17:28
adam b

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Post #14
T5 conversion. Job done and 300BHp.

Just use an ME4 one cos they aren't as complex. Just got to get it in the engine bay Wink

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Posted 7th Nov 2011 at 10:29
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should be easier than a Corrado LOL

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Posted 7th Nov 2011 at 10:32
adam b

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Sorry I should say that the T5 engine is all alloy and therefore nice and light. The gearbox isn't massively heavy either and is cable shift so not hard to convert.

Really tempted to have a go, just need the money.

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Posted 7th Nov 2011 at 10:36
welshpug!

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Hmm

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Posted 7th Nov 2011 at 11:49
rallyeash

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dixon's old 306 race car was a XU7 and over 200@wheels

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Posted 7th Nov 2011 at 14:28
matty_rallye

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rallyeash wrote:
dixon's old 306 race car was a XU7 and over 200@wheels


Was an impressive figure when it was built, seems mad now that they are getting that figure from n/a tu's!

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