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Author Subject: 1.6 THP 200 engine in a 6??
marco gti6

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Post #1
Hello fellow forum members,

So while i was checking out Peugeot ServiceBox yesterday for a few parts numbers and prices, i checked out what the above mentioned engine looks like in therms of fixation points/cradles and to my astonishment it seems like the usual 3 points as used on the XU10J4RS.

These engines are supposed to be lighter, more economical, are turbocharged and easily tuneable to 210bhp as these can be found in the new cooper S JCW.

This is just a thought, i am definitely not the most mechanically gifted person on here, but i know that we have a lot of very bright and mechanically gifted members on here who made/designed/produced other grate projects and parts. So i would like to hear their thoughts about this

So, go have a look on SB and tell me if it's just me or does the engine mountings look almost identical to the ones on the GTI6??

Comments as always welcome Smile
Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 17:35
cwspellowe

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Sure I heard somewhere about it being an XU block. Might have been imagining that bit though Dunno

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 17:44
welshpug!

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Post #3
yup, they will be pretty close, nothing a little bit of welding+fabrication can't sort if they are not.

your main issue with this engine is the management, as its a FBW, VVT, Variable vane Turbo charged, Direct injected engine, variable inlet valve lift as well I believe, for certain on the n-a engine, not sure on the thp version.

so you can imagine you'll need a complex ecu and one hell of a mapping session LOL:

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 17:49
velar

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Post #4
Isn't this completely new engine, built in a joint venture with BMW, or maybe I imagined that to.

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 17:50
marco gti6

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Post #5
The engine was indeed build together with BMW, that's why it can be found in all the Mini cooper s and jcw.

The 6 speed gearbox also seems much smaller than the ones on the 6, which would improve the turn in.
Would love to see what difference it would make on a 6/Rallye Hmm
Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 17:57
marco gti6

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Has anyone seen the asphalt edition of the RCZ?? I don't know if its also sold in the UK. That paint mat grey Telluric? looks sooooo ace Love
Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 18:00
welshpug!

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yup, called the Tarmac here I think?


the prince engine shares some basic architecture with the TU engine, but that's about as close as it gets afaik, it was indeed developed with BMW, it'll be used by SAAB next year, if they build any cars.

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 19:22
mabgti

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Thp 6... Coming soon Ninja

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Posted 20th Oct 2011 at 00:34
atterz

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I was looking on a scrap website today and saw a cooper S 10 plate with this engine in for £1500... not bad for this engine im guessing?

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 20:33
yippeekayay

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Post #10
205 donor!!!!! thats the price of cooper engines through the roof then!!! does this mean a supercharged one will fit!!?

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 21:10
rallyeash

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mmm could be good setup in the front of a 205/309/306. lighter, small box, modern and potential to make some good hp and torque. wonder what the pistons could handle Hmm

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 21:43
yippeekayay

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rallyeash wrote:
mmm could be good setup in the front of a 205/309/306. lighter, small box, modern and potential to make some good hp and torque. wonder what the pistons could handle Hmm



LOL Thumbs up go on...Cool

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 21:49
rallyeash

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would be a nice project but the rallye's cost me far to much already LOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 22:03
welshpug!

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Post #14
dont want the old supercharged one, its an old 8 valve chrysler lump, prince is much better (lighter too probably)

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Posted 21st Oct 2011 at 22:53

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