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lammylama

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First bloody job i do on my new 6 goes tits up FFS!!!!.....attempting to fit my new hybrid arb and i had trouble getting the end plate off one end of the old bar.I tried winding out the n/s plate but wouldnt budge so tried the drivers side which came out fine,i then pulled the arb out and tried to remove the n/s plate again. It just wont budge at all for some reason,ive actually stripped the thread in the plate with the M12 bolt Angry

ive bashed it and even heated it up and its not budging still.....so now i have a car with a new ARB fitted with no end plates on it so i now have no car to use...aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!

Ive put a wanted post in the appropriate section but if anyone has a n/s ARB end plate thats off the bar please let me know as i need one yesterday!!

Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 18:27

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matt evans

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The splines can be rusted like buggery and its nigh on impossible to budge them

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Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 19:10

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lammylama

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thats whats happened mate...now im stuck until i get another plate.....ive just had another go and it aint going nowhere!!!!!!!

Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 20:16

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matt evans

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Both mine were siezed, i ended up cutting the one off in order to get the ARB out. Luckily i had a spare one to use....

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Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 20:21

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Big vice + big drift + big hammer + copious ammounts of oxy/acetylene = WIN

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Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 20:50

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you did use an M12 x 1.5 bolt not a standard 1.75 pitch thread didn't you?

you can use it just fine without the ARB, it'll just lean a bit LOL

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Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 21:24

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lammylama

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daveyboy wrote:

Big vice + big drift + big hammer + copious ammounts of oxy/acetylene = WIN

No vice,no big drift and no oxy/aceylene = NO WIN lol

Posted 12th Mar 2011 at 21:49

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No vice,no big drift and no oxy/aceylene = I FAIL

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Posted 14th Mar 2011 at 14:47

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l_e_cook

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No vice,no big drift and no oxy/aceylene = NO WIN lol

No vice,no big drift and no oxy/aceylene = FAIL!!!! Lol

Posted 23rd Mar 2011 at 04:07

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clen666

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Post #10

I don't suppose anyone has come up with a miraculous new method to remove these have they?

I am also of the 'no win/ fail' group, being without any of the heavy-duty tools mentioned above, and using the bolt just isn't budging it.

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 20:55

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pete_rallye

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Not the quickest method but if you blather it in WD40 or similar and leave for a day they will come off alright. Like has been said, they get rusted on, so soak em in oil and leave it to penetrate. Strangely one side always seem to come off easily and the other is a pain...

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:05

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clen666

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Post #12

I've left it soaking so will try again tomorrow.

One problem is the threads on the right side plate are basically flat with rust and I'm struggling to clear them. Hopefully that is the easier side once I can get them clear!

Are the plates still available from pug should I completely feck them?

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:13

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jord294

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Post #13

£45 each the end plates

i must of been really lucky lately. as the last few 306 beams i've stripped, the caps have come off easy from both sides

i've also found that not any m12 x 1.50 bolt will do

i now use a front brake caliper bolt, to start things, and then a rear caliper bolt to get the full distance

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:18

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Post #14

Penetrating oil or diesel are both good at loosening things. Put a dab of copper grease onto the ends before refitting to reduce future siezures.

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:24

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clen666

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Post #15

how much?!

that's interesting about the caliper bolts though, I was just using a random 8.8 m12 x 1.5 bolt and it started to deform its threads before any movement of the plate

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:30

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I use a pug XU Iron block head bolt with the end ground so its flat Smile

I don't think I've ever had an issue removing one, the left hand end p[late is always a little tougher as its pulled fully onto the splines whereas the r/h is not.

Any penetrating stuff tbh is useless due to the tight fit and access to the splines, heat will suffice if necessary though Big grin

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:31

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clen666

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Hmm suppose I'll just have to concentrate on the right side then.

Any tips on clearing the threads? I don't have access to a tap but may need to invest in a set

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Posted 13th Oct 2011 at 21:40

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clen666

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Managed to get the threads cleared and the plate off using jord's method of using caliper bolts, cheers for the advice fellas.

Just those bloody torsion bars to deal with now...

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Posted 14th Oct 2011 at 13:01

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demondriverdan

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Update to and old thread as I'm having the same issue. Tried everything to get the plates off but neither will move and the threads are non-existent on both sides (M12x1.5 bolt basically slides straight in).

We've tried heat and chisels and the damn things won't move.

Any ideas?

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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 18:47

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Niall

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Post #20

i also had this issue the other day when fitting my new TBs. Luckily i could just rotate the ARB to get the bars in/out but i would like to do a beam refurb soon which would require me taking the ARB out so any suggestions for doing it on the car would be good!

Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 19:07

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demondriverdan

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Probably doing the same as me, I'm rebuilding the beam for the hybrid ARB and bigger TBs. Once TB came out really easily but the other seems to be stuck firm. Turning in to a right PITA this is!

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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 19:10

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welshpug!

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Post #22

put a bolt in the rhs and beat it inwards if there are no threads left, punch the arb right out of the plate through the beam.

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That was my next plan. Think I'm going to use a centre punch instead as it's probably stronger than the bolt Smile

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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 20:51

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welshpug!

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nah, centre punch too small and brittle

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We've got some pretty big punches (came as part of a chisel set). Worth a shot anyway.

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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 21:13

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