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 jungle jim
Senior User  Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Morning All!Does anyone have a picture of the underside of the top engine mount. One that shows the captive nut, and how captive it is... Mine looks like it has rounded out, and I need to get it out and replace it. A piccy will help me figure out where to hit it  ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
 Posted 24th Nov 2010 at 14:20
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oecken
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #2
not the first time you've changed it then? fraid i dont have a pic but might be worth getting / making a Chock for the top mount.________________________________________  Ex-Black 6  - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2010 at 14:22
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #3
It's already chocked, and been welded. It seems my engine just wants to get out of the car!This just seems to be the next weakest point... I was thinking about making something to go over the top so the mount is almost completely captive. ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 24th Nov 2010 at 14:25
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #4
have you ever replaced the lower mount / gearbox mount.... if not, and the top is chocked and welded then surly if all the engine movement is coming from the other bottom mounts will lead to stress on the top point? ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 24th Nov 2010 at 14:28
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #5
All changed for Group N spec'ed mounts. When it's not broken it doesn't move at all.________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 24th Nov 2010 at 15:12
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #6
The nut in the bottom of the mount has stripped has it?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Nov 2010 at 17:21
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will130787
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Easier just to take the majority of the mount arm off surely? The captive nut is smack bang in the middle of the dome! Careful if your going to wallop it with a hammer though that you don't weaken/break the weld  if the nut has rounded off I would grind it off.________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 ownerAlso an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp....  Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2010 at 17:49
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will130787
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Easier just to take the majority of the mount arm off surely? The captive nut is smack bang in the middle of the dome! Careful if your going to wallop it with a hammer though that you don't weaken/break the weld if the nut has rounded off I would grind it off.________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 ownerAlso an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp.... Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2010 at 17:50
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will130787
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Wow treble post! Funking iPhone!________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 ownerAlso an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp.... Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2010 at 18:44
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Seems the nut is actually fine :| The mount itself which is supposed to be a BBM Group N item has far to much movement in it. Seems to allow a lot of travel in the vertical direction, as that's the only way it can move. So I guess I'll be replacing it. What with is the next question... ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 19:32
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Have you got the little bridge piece with the rubber ended bolt underneath in place? That limits vertical movement of the engine as the bolt contacts the underside of the bridge piece stoping the engine from trying to 'climb out' of the engine bay with the torque reaction.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 1st Dec 2010 at 19:55
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #12
daveyboy wrote: Have you got the little bridge piece with the rubber ended bolt underneath in place? That limits vertical movement of the engine as the bolt contacts the underside of the bridge piece stoping the engine from trying to 'climb out' of the engine bay with the torque reaction. Yeah, got that. buffered it a bit more using a nut to raise the little bolt with it's hat up a few mm. Seems to reduce the movement. Seems the mount is f*cked, and I'm stuck trying to find something better than standard... ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 05:29
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #13
If it's a BBM mount it will have BBM cast into the rubber. They are currently out of stock, more due end Jan early Feb ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 12:44
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Yeah, looking into the spoox one as the engine already vibrates the car... and I'm looking to get rid of any movement of the engine when putting down power.________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 9th Dec 2010 at 14:18
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jungle jim
Senior User Location: Farnborough Registered: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 796 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Double checked both the gearbox and the top engine mount. Both BBM, both f*cked.Spoox fast road models now on the car. Feels like it did when I first fitted the BBM mounts. Bit disappointed in how long they (didn't) last tbh. ________________________________________ 200+ secret squirrels hiding under the bonnet with 4 wide mouth frogs... |
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Posted 10th Dec 2010 at 20:48
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #16
jungle jim wrote: Double checked both the gearbox and the top engine mount. Both BBM, both f*cked. Spoox fast road models now on the car. Feels like it did when I first fitted the BBM mounts. Bit disappointed in how long they (didn't) last tbh. +1 from me on that score, mine went soft in a very short space of time. In fact it only vibrated at idle for about a month and after that they had softened to the point where they felt as smooth as new standard PUG mounts. Solid mounts are the way forward for me I feel, but road miles are no longer a concern ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 10th Dec 2010 at 21:34
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