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Author Subject: touring car/Ex works/Maxi engine
conor flynn

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Post #1
Would like to upgrade the engine in my GTI-6 Rally Car, sure someone was selling a proper engine and bits on here not long ago, anyone know where else or who else has anything of this sort??

Thanks
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 18:52
conor flynn

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Post #2
like this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hE6j4A6GtM

thanks
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 18:56
midlife

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Post #3
http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=129910&page=1

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 18:58
309btcc

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Post #4
that is a real animal and a great deal for who ever buys it the sound is unreal
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 19:07
conor flynn

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Post #5
That link wont work.. Sad
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 19:27
309btcc

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Post #6
its page 2 of the parts forsale gti6girl near the bottom mate
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 19:39
lotek

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Post #7
supercharge it?

actually theres a supercharged gti6 on here for sale for 4k Yes take the lump out put in yours and break the rest?
or dump your engine in and sell car on??
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 20:51
welshpug!

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Post #8
what's your budget?

can't supercharge a 2.0 306 rally car btw.

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:13
309btcc

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Post #9
buy that btcc engine its well worth the cash for what you get
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:24
welshpug!

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Post #10
not really, pretty limited on spec due to the regs they were built to comply with, you can build much better from scratch for similar money.

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:34
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Post #11
you think??
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:36
gti6girl

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Cheers welshpug??
Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:52
midlife

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Post #13
PM crf450, he has a touring car engine hidden away somewhere & he is in Belper near Derby. He can sort plenty of suspension goodies too.
TBH though would you not be better off with a low boost supercharger set up. The supercharger kit can easily be swapped from one engine to another if you blow it up, if you blow a touring car engine it will cost a small fortune to fix.
As for you can't use a supercharged engine in a 306 in a rally, I think that is incorrect.
The way I remember it is that you can't fit a turbo or supercharger to a car type that has never had a boosted engine in it's model range. Luckily enough Pug made the 306 turbo diesel, so that should make boosted engines fine for rallying. That rule allowed Will Gallop to compete in European rallycross.
Out of interest what is the spec of your car Conor??

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 01:47
welshpug!

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Post #14
that's not correct, from the Blue Book -

2008/265. Modifications are free within MSA Vehicle
Regulations and as defined in 2008/262 to 2008/282
for those vehicles that have been homologated in:
• Groups A or N of FIA Appendix J, or
• Groups 1, 2, 3 or 4 of the 1981 FIA Appendix J, or
• Non-Homologated Series Production Cars
• Vehicles must be in the configuration as supplied
by the manufacturer, with the engine (either
production car engine or specialist Competition
engine) in the original location and with the original
form of induction (normally aspirated or forced
induction)

• The original means of forced induction is limited to the original fuel type.


although...



2008/267. Other cars not complying with 2008/265 or
2008/266 may be eligible at MSA discretion. Approval
guidelines for these cars are available from the MSA,
but eligibility
will only be granted for cars which retain the original
manufacturer’s body construction and which have
not been substantially altered. They must also be
fitted with a recognised Production Car Engine or
specialist Competition engine (as defined in The
Terminology).


2008/270.
(a) Engines must comply with C(Cool-10.
(Cool Forced induction engines must be fitted with a
restrictor at a maximum of 50mm from the extremes of
the compressor blades.


I don't think a boosted 306 will be competitive at all, as it will be in the same class as WRC machinery, and 2.5l 300 bhp Millington engined vehicles running sequential gearboxes (Darrians and escorts)

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 02:44
midlife

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Post #15
So reading between the lines you can run a charged 306....
Who said anything about being competitiveDunno
If you can break into the top 10 you've done well, I've seen plenty of 2L novas etc do very well on single venue events, even outright wins, that's the thing about rallying, if you have a decent amount of power & a car that handles in the twisties your in with a shout. I wouldn't use a high boost engine for rallying though as gearbox failures would render it pointless unless it was a nice smooth venue. A 306 with proper brakes, suspension & 250 bhp would make a very nice rally car imho!

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 04:39
yippeekayay

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midlife wrote:
So reading between the lines you can run a charged 306....
Who said anything about being competitiveDunno
If you can break into the top 10 you've done well, I've seen plenty of 2L novas etc do very well on single venue events, even outright wins, that's the thing about rallying, if you have a decent amount of power & a car that handles in the twisties your in with a shout. I wouldn't use a high boost engine for rallying though as gearbox failures would render it pointless unless it was a nice smooth venue. A 306 with proper brakes, suspension & 250 bhp would make a very nice rally car imho!

Cool


wouldnt that be called a 306 maxi???old hat now...

connor you pedalled that 306 well enough as it was, bully reckons you can pedal your 205s well so stick with it stock for a while...or borrow yr dads t16!!!?

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 04:46
conor flynn

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Post #17
you can run a super charger... but would move uop iinto WRC Class, so pointless!!

current spec isnt massive, Ex-Works 6 C/L Box and plate diff, 175BHP, standard brakes etc just uprated pads...

will have a look into derbyshire guy cheers
Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 05:24
laurentgarnier

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Post #18
yippeekayay wrote:
midlife wrote:
So reading between the lines you can run a charged 306....
Who said anything about being competitiveDunno
If you can break into the top 10 you've done well, I've seen plenty of 2L novas etc do very well on single venue events, even outright wins, that's the thing about rallying, if you have a decent amount of power & a car that handles in the twisties your in with a shout. I wouldn't use a high boost engine for rallying though as gearbox failures would render it pointless unless it was a nice smooth venue. A 306 with proper brakes, suspension & 250 bhp would make a very nice rally car imho!

Cool


wouldnt that be called a 306 maxi???old hat now...


Might be old, but definitely not old hat. No No

It's that old hat, that the FIA, under pressure from some manufacturers, cancelled the re-entrance into the WRC of the F2 Kitcar genre, of which the 306 Maxi is a member.

Peugeot even commissioned Dimma to build, if i remember correctly, 95 new Maxis in readiness. These were available for £250,000 and would include 12 months Peugeot Motorsport support.

Even now, they would still be able to give the 4wd WRC beasts a run for their money on the tarmac. Yes

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 05:27
welshpug!

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Post #19
indeed, even though the regs were still very restrictive on the suspension setup so you couldn't technically run rear coilovers, or at least a turret, hence why the beam assembly they ended up making for them was easily north of 15k euro's Shock

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 22:54

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