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 mikey0708090
Newbie  Location: Telford Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 12 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hi , i bought some polished cam covers but they havnt got the origanal gasket on them. so i took mine off and cleaned both of the surfaces on the head. i applyed some gasket sealent to the new covers and fitted them on but oil started to leak out of them, whats the best way of sealing these?cheers |
 Posted 6th Sep 2010 at 04:33
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
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Black RTV sealant... but line it on the head side only.... Let it set for 30minutes then apply rocker covers ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 6th Sep 2010 at 21:16
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mr swampy s16
**BAD SELLER**  Location: out and about Registered: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 10,550 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I used a loctite sealant was like a graphite compound.Did the job well |
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Posted 6th Sep 2010 at 21:23
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Any one used the 'BLUE' stuff that doesn't fully set ?Iv had the same sort of problems and the blue stuffs instructions are a little sketchy tbh, it says apply on both head and covers. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 12:03
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #5
They require alot of sealant to get them sealed when the orig seals are missing If you look on the cam covers the cast around the hole where your bolts go through the cover are quite abit higher than the outer edge of the cam cover where the seals are, it's like this to stop you overtightening the bolts and squeezing the orig seals out  If you fit the cam covers and bolt them down without any sealant on it will give you a good idea of the size of the bead of sealant you need to use. It's not ideal though, as you need to use such a big bead of sealer you risk any excess sealer going inside the engine, this can then cause massive probs if it blocks up your oil pick up in the sump  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 17:34
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Thats very helpful Coskev, thanks.I applied a thin bead of sealant before, was worried putting too much on for the above reasons. So is it best to put a thin bead both on engine and covers around the outer edges of them both, then smoothe out the sealant that would come out the edges ? When you say test it, would i see a gap around the edge between the head and covers then guess how much is needed? I wish Pug sold them alone. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 18:21
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Im suprised someone hasnt come up with there own gasket/seal for the cam covers since pug dont supply them________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 19:22
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pugjim
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sheffield Registered: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,380 Status: Offline |
Post #8
they do supply them, just attached to a new pair of rocker covers  |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 21:35
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #9
beez_neez_gt wrote: When you say test it, would i see a gap around the edge between the head and covers then guess how much is needed? . If the seals are missing totally yeah It is a big gap to fill with sealer, and far from ideal.I made the mistake of getting some cam covers chromed, never again will I fit any without orig seals in place!!! I just put a thick bead of sealer onto the cam carriers, then banged the cam covers on and left it along time to go off before running eng. ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 23:00
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
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pugjim wrote: they do supply them, just attached to a new pair of rocker covers  ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 11th Dec 2012 at 23:23
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #11
From what iv read they only supply one side now, what a pile of poo having to buy the covers to get one.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 07:37
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I believe you're right and that one of the cam covers is no longer available new.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 12:39
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I guess its the start of the 306 parts being NFP like the 205, also they probably ran out due to selling the covers with the gasket to make more money instead of selling them seperately.Anyone know of a gasket maker that can get loads made at all, i quickly tried google with no luck ? ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 12:56
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #14
There must be someone out there who could make the gaskets. Surprised no-one has before. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 13:25
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #15
So am i tbh, could ask rich w maybe ??Would need a full set to stencil some from, cant be too hard. Iv not messed about making any before so would rather get someone that has or does make them. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 13:30
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Moonstone6
Regular  Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Sounds like hylomar which will be useless for that application as it has a very low curing depth I believe loctite rtv is the future when it comes to rockers and sumps but alow it time to cure and apply to a squeaky clean surface and that should keep the oil on the right side of therocker covers  |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 14:14
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Are you refering to the BLUE gasket sealant stuff ?________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 15:38
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #18
beez_neez_gt wrote: yea hylomar blue its a no go for curing at anything more than 0.5.mm Are you refering to the BLUE gasket sealant stuff ? |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 15:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Wurth is good s**t too ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 16:09
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Ok noted, i just got some loctite now anyways, the grey stuff. Read instruction and it doesn't mention oat about the metal tool inside, at a guess its for taking the old stuff off, its a T shaped metal tool with a hollow space inside the whole shape.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 16:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Thats for squeezing the tube________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 17:06
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Oh right, simple as that, nice little bit extra that means you use every last bit. When compainies help you make the most of their product it makes me want to buy more of their products. I didnt see any other type that had the tool included in the motor factors.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 17:20
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Might be worth a e-mail to cometic gaskets?They make aftermarket/uprated gaskets ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 19:19
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #24
http://www.cometic.com/custom-gaskets.aspx ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 19:25
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Cool ill see what i can get sorted out and maybe get a load made up, thanks coskev.How do you get the oil breather thing inside the front cover out as i dont want to damage it, so i can get it sandblasted ? ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Dec 2012 at 19:35
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