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emm thats got me worried

that cable that comes off the negative terminal goes to the 13mm bolt (iirc) on the gearbox then to the earth point near the front of the battery (closer to the front of the car, there seems to be two earth points near each other here)

that sound right? Unsure


more and more people thinking its my earths Yes

Richw got back to me and said if the ecu was locked or anything like that - the fuel pump would still prime Yes

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 16:50
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so the double relay "click" when the the ignition is turned on?

if so, i would check the crank sensor

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:06
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no they dont, only tick i get seems to be from the brake servo - which btw is that normal? usually sitting in car when i turn the key and all i usualy heard was the fuel pump priming LOL

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:07
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is your inheria switch ok? maybe try bridging the wires

the 19pin plug is dirty or unplugged ?

try a know working fuel relay

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:09
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iv got a spare working interia swtich and double fuel relay

and i managed proved fuel pump was working

was still the same

really hoping its my earths, engine bay was sprayed, but they were covered up with tape / still had thier bolts left in

cheers for the suggestions though! Yes


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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:23
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did you click it? ...lol

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:24
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click what?

edit : ohh you mean press the interia switch?? ... yes many times

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 17:47
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no, the "pic's of naked ladies" link LOL

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of course i did Big grin
... very nice hah

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Posted 2nd Aug 2010 at 18:01
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okay all earths cleaned out
even attached a earthing kit that i had for it, put earths everywhere

still the same Sad

is there a certain time i need to press the interia switch?

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 02:30
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emm thats got me worried

that cable that comes off the negative terminal goes to the 13mm bolt (iirc) on the gearbox then to the earth point near the front of the battery (closer to the front of the car, there seems to be two earth points near each other here)

that sound right? Unsure


can anyone confirm this?

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 02:33
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Just push the inheria switch, that's it

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 02:46
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tried it with ignition on, off on one click two clicks

does it make any noise or that?

got two switches here, two relays
i have double checked fuel pump again :s it makes a noise when i put 12v threw it Sad

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sorry to hijack but the double click your on about? i have that but fuel pump primes!! should i change the crank sensor?

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 02:59
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i have no idea

fuel pump is def making a noise when i put threw 12v on it
shale i try and get a different engine loom Unsure

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you have put the perm live from battery to starter to alt?

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 12:31
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yes

preparing a few pictures, iv got 400 odd pictures from before i stripped it all down so i know where everything went, all bolts were labelled in bags etc LOL

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 13:48
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incase iv got wires wrong LOL heres my earths most of them have been taped out, cleaned up with 300 odd rough wet and dry and a small bit of copper grease on them

edited : pictures removed Yes wasnt my earths

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Posted 16th Aug 2010 at 16:41
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Post #44
take the double relay out and put a multimetre on pin 14 and turn the ignition on

do you get 12v?

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 14:01
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iirc, no
i will double check tonite, got an old friend who is a time served mechanic and owns a working Rallye and wants to help tonite, which is handy Smile so more relays and switches to test


also, regards crank sensor (the one with brown plug under the thermostat housing)
i have two of these, ones a few month old and the one that was on the car (working)n before i stripped it down
surely not both are faulty Sad

tried both two or three times now
pain in the ass to take them off Yes

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Posted 3rd Aug 2010 at 15:54
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Posted 4th Aug 2010 at 23:04
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Post #47
mechanic with a Rallye turned up last night

we put my fuel pump, double fuel relay and inertia switch into his car and they all work, even had the ecu in his car, and it primed his fuel pump

we have the same voltmetre readings at the fuel pump plug on my car and his

he had a good look around trying to trace wires the could possibly be broken, we ran out of time it got quiet late

spikey, i forgot to check pin 14 specifically, he was controlling the volt metre, iirc we have 12v coming from at least one of the pins of the relay connector

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Mate i havn't read all the thread but i take it you've check to see if the emergency fuel cut off switch is working ok or has not been activated by accient?

Ahh just read the ubove, yes you have. mmm strange one as the same thing happened to me but i just hit the double realy with a hammer and it kicked in.
Posted 5th Aug 2010 at 00:24
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cheers but iv tried that Smile

emm spikey, yes pin 14 has live

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Posted 5th Aug 2010 at 04:18
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no one got any other ideas?

iv tested using other chassis loom and engine loom also

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Posted 10th Aug 2010 at 02:37
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