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lilnickgti6

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Post #1
just spoke to a very reputable mechanic, he says my oil has petrol mixed in with it, but how can this be? plz help
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:12
welshpug!

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Post #2
sensor fault leading to bore wash, potentially damaged piston rings and bores.

just change the oil and filter and see how it goes.

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Posted 9th Jul 2010 at 21:45
lilnickgti6

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thanks welshpug for quick reply, i changed the oil yeseterday and filter but no joy. the garage has said it could be the head gasket.. so he quoted me £400 for head gasket,pressure test and cambelt.
but is there more to my problem as fuel should never get in the oil should it?
Posted 9th Jul 2010 at 22:19
joevts

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Post #4
could be HG as he says, could be rings...
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 00:38
lilnickgti6

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Post #5
thanks for reply joevts, if its the rings am i looking at a new engine?
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 00:41
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no, though with the cost of replacing them in labour coupled with the fact that most XU10 iron blocks are worn too much to accept a new set of rings you might as well find another engine if someone else is doing the work.

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 00:42
lilnickgti6

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how much is a new engine roughly plz also how many hours labour is it?
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 00:44
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Post #8
Have you actually got any symptoms of a problem? Or just some mechanic trying to generate work for himself?

If any of the possible causes had happened, then you'd surely know about it!

(PS, please try to give your threads meaningful titles)

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:12
lilnickgti6

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ok sorry thanks khj100.lol. my symptoms are there is petrol getting into the oil and also the engine is over heating really bad causing the oil to go really thin . also it taps rather badly but only afer say 5 mins of driving, do you have any suggestions?
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:21
khj100

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Post #10
A replacement engine is likely to be £500-£600 fitted.

Contamination of the oil and overheating points to headgasket failure (NB, it's most likely not petrol getting into the oil, it's coolant). The tapping might suggest that it's got so hot that the head has warped (in which case, you may as well just swap the engine IMO).

If it's definitely petrol then it's the rings/bore damage. But i don't see how this can cause the other 2 symptoms Dunno

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:30
rich-6

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Post #11
My car used to do a lot of small journeys which used to make the engine tap a bit more, get a tad warmer, the oil smell of petrol and used to use a bit of oil. It used to be always running on the choke pretty much 10minute journeys and a lazy arse Laugh

Thats when its due the oil changing, Once thats been done it doesnt use a drop and is quiet as a mouse, Sits on the drive more often thatn nothing nowadays though Laugh

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:34
lilnickgti6

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Post #12
yeah its definitly petrol in the oil it stinks, and it taps quite badly over 2k rpm. i think its safer to get a new engine fitted than just get the head gasket done, as that might not solve my problem. do you know anyone with a complete engine for sale, also would i be ok with my wiring and ecu or would that need replacing too? thanks im proper guted i loved my car just need to get it back on the road now :-(
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:37
lilnickgti6

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Post #13
i tried changing the oil the other day, next day its was really thin again and smelt like petrol
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:38
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Another GTi6 engine will drop straight in. Run with the same wiring and ECU.

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:42
lilnickgti6

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cool thanks, do you know how many hours labour it is roughly khj100??
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:46
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I'd suggest a mechanic would charge you 8 hours or so.

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:48
chris with a pug

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Post #17
Just change the oil and see what happens. Dont leave it as you will spin a bearing as the oil is fubered.
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:50
lilnickgti6

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Post #18
right thanks guys, am not to drive any further with this engine, i changed the oil only done 10 miles with it and its really thin and smell like petrol already, ill put a post in the wanted section. the garage has told me it will be the head gasket, but do you guys think it a lot safer to buy a new engine with my symptoms?????
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:55
chris with a pug

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Post #19
strip it down and have a look is probably the best way. head gasket will be cheaper than a new engine
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 01:58
lilnickgti6

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lol i dont no where to start when stripping it down, i have to take it to the local garage, but i dont really wanna pay them £400 to do head gasket and cambelt for it then to turn out to be the piston rings and bores, i really dont know what to do??
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 02:01
chris with a pug

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Post #21
how much wil they charge u to whip the head off? if he is a repituble garage he wont fix a fubared engine
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 03:18
welshpug!

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wont need to do that, a compression test will tell what's up.

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Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 03:22
lilnickgti6

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Post #23
the garage said he would do the pressure test cambelt and head gasket set for £400
is it worth taking the risk with this but then i could find out after that it needs even more money spending if it needs a new engine?
Posted 11th Jul 2010 at 03:38
joevts

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i reckon you'd be better off getting a new engine, then selling the old one on to someone who knows how to fix them
Posted 12th Jul 2010 at 00:30
lilnickgti6

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Post #25
bump, anyone else ever had petrol in oil? have been now told it could be overfuleing?
Posted 21st Jul 2010 at 01:02

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