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Author Subject: Hydraulic clutch conversion
welshpug!

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Post #51
307 Smile

the BE4 hydraulic gearbox uses the same pressure plate and bearing, just a different arm with a slave cylinder bolted on the front.

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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 01:45
206

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Post #52
Which one, the 2.0?

I've heard that some of the commercial vehicles, with diesels, might also use the version of the hydraulic BE4...?
Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 02:52
welshpug!

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Post #53
the petrol 2.0 and anything smaller that doesnt use the MA.

Most of the 2.0 + 2.2 diesels and the 2.2 Puma diesel in the commercials use an ML5 or ML6 gearbox.

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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:11
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Post #54
Ok, i'll try and find on and see how it goes, if the standard hydraulic clutch setup will work with the AP clutch.
Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:19
daveyboy

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Post #55
206 wrote:
Oh, btw - the car - 206 GTI, EW10J4, GT30 turbo, ITBs, nitrous, TON of other mods, 6 years and who knows ho much $$$. 470BHP.



Finally a 206 I like Big grin Cool

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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:25
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Post #56
I bet you'll like this even better, then Smile

No thread hijacking any more, i promise...Ninja

206 has attached the following image:

Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:55
daveyboy

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Post #57
very nice, this is the second TB/Turbo setup on here in a short space of time, have to admit I'd never even heard of mixing the two induction types until last week. Technicly it's still a plenum style inlet, but with the throttle butterflies in the runners instead of the mouth of ther plenum. You calibrate the engine map with a MAP sensor on the plenum somewhere I guess?

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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 15:09
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Post #58
Two MAPs and a TPS - TPS (AlphaN mapping) for lower revs for more precise control as MAPs have poor resolution while off boost (TB setups are like that), making the transition to MAP control gradually as it starts coming out of the vacuum.

2 MAPs are on the car, one before and the other after the throttle plates, gives much more precise and quicker boost control, with positive feedback control.

Soon to be mapped on E85 (~550BHP), which should put it back on the 1st place as the world's most powerful EW10 Smile

Can this be split as a new topic, i don't want to disrupt this one anymore?
Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 16:27
cwspellowe

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Post #59
Just make your own thread LOL

More pics in it too Thumbs up

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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 19:53
daveyboy

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Post #60
206 wrote:
Two MAPs and a TPS - TPS (AlphaN mapping) for lower revs for more precise control as MAPs have poor resolution while off boost (TB setups are like that), making the transition to MAP control gradually as it starts coming out of the vacuum.

2 MAPs are on the car, one before and the other after the throttle plates, gives much more precise and quicker boost control, with positive feedback control.

Soon to be mapped on E85 (~550BHP), which should put it back on the 1st place as the world's most powerful EW10 Smile

Can this be split as a new topic, i don't want to disrupt this one anymore?


Sounds like a very well resolved setup. I imagine wheelspin is a major problem for you though.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 21:20
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Post #61
No, not really - i'll open a new topic, post a few video links, pics, specs, etc.

Anyway, anybody got anything to add on the topic of the gearbox?
Posted 27th Feb 2011 at 00:16
rallyeash

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Post #62
daveyboy wrote:
this is the second TB/Turbo setup on here in a short space of time, have to admit I'd never even heard of mixing the two induction types until last week. somewhere I guess?


standard on the lotus esprit...

Love

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Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 01:04
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Post #63
Nissan Skyline as well
Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 02:05
welshpug!

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Pulsar GTIr too Smile

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Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 02:32
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Post #65
Ok, furthermore - what should be the clearance between the hydraulic bearing and the plate cover, and what should be the piston travel - e.g. on the pictures posted earlier in the thread?
Posted 2nd Mar 2011 at 15:52
bobdylan_55

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Post #66
dont know if its been said or not yet, but change to the ml5 gearbox from 406 coupes or 2.0 turbo etc they fit straight on and are hydraulic. The biggest pain is remanufacturing the hydraulic hosing from the slave and then fitting a master cylinder somewhere. O and bleeding can be a pain in the batty if you get the old style slave as it has no bleed point.
Best way id recommend is to get the newer slave with the metal union and pipework, cut it off about 3 inch from the slave, put another brake union onto it and joiner etc to some more brake pipe and then go from there.

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Posted 2nd Mar 2011 at 16:04
bobdylan_55

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Post #67
ecureuil_zx16v wrote:
mine



for this clutch


Just wondering how you managed to get this flywheel to work? the inner diameter of the flywheel wheel for this clutch setup needs to be a maximum of 132mm, where as this flywheel has an inner diameter of 160mm.

Did you have to make an adapter?

thanks

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Posted 23rd Dec 2015 at 13:31
petert

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Post #68
Sorry, only a few years late @bobdylan_55. Use a 205 1.6L Motronic flywheel.
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