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tez_306

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G'day all,
So lately, my standard engine mount started knocking again. The cradle has already been reinforced/welded, and a new engine mount fitted no longer than 6 months ago.
Upon inspection, I found that the cradle was faultless (now that I was able to see the weld job, i'm quite impressed, decently neat welds) along with the mount rubber.

What was causing the knock was that the lower threaded stud became loose in the mount - probably could've gotten away with tightening it back up again but...

..I grasped this opportunity to fit the spoox mounts in. However, the mount is slightly taller than the standard OEM type. So as a result, the engine sits slightly lopsided now.

Whats the go with that? Have any of you fitted these mounts before and run into the same issue?
I'm considering taking them out and getting a machine shop to chop the body down a bit...

Posted 29th Mar 2010 at 17:10

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How much are you talking? Can you space the mount down on the engine side to compensate?

You should see the spacing on my V6 to get it to fit LOL

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Posted 29th Mar 2010 at 17:13

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tez_306

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There's no way I can space it down, I could remove the wedge piece but that would just put wayyy too much load on the cradle so that's not an option. Its probably raised it 1cm at the mount.

So its either spoox are fools, or these mounts are supposed to be used in conjunction with their gearbox mounts to raise the whole engine evenly.. thats if the gearbox mounts are thinner...
:S very confusion

EDIT: Sorry, I misread what you said adam - but no i cant space it down at the engine side because it uses a dovetail bolt/stud arrangement.

Posted 29th Mar 2010 at 17:51

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A CM is alot to have engine higher one side than the other Huh?

Would have thought you will get driveshaft problems Sad

Speak to Spoox and see what they say Wink

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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 02:47

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They are made by Vibra Techinc's.
But worth checking the gearbox mount as these can sag too,
Also normally the top std ones settle down to the normal level after a while, like the pictured one.

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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 02:51

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What did you use to tighten the mount into place? (i'm not suggesting this is the problem just wondering whether you made a tool or used a strap wrench etc?)

Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 03:25

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just make sure its one for the 306 Yes

as spoox are known to ship 205 parts LOL

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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 04:05

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What did you use to tighten the mount into place? (i'm not suggesting this is the problem just wondering whether you made a tool or used a strap wrench etc?)

I separated it as you can see in the photos and tightened it with a 6mm allen bit on an extended ratchet.

I sent an email to spoox asking if the 205 ones were taller. lol..

Do you guys reckon its possible to raise the gearbox side with washers?

Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 18:50

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i'd just fit a new mounting to the gearbox side as they can sag like miles said

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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 18:57

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The parts should be supplied right without having to make mod's to the gearbox, Yes you can raise it but you shouldn't have to at the end of the day.

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tez_306 wrote:

dented_vts wrote:

What did you use to tighten the mount into place? (i'm not suggesting this is the problem just wondering whether you made a tool or used a strap wrench etc?)

Yeah silly question from me sorry; how would you re-tighten a standard mount?

Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 01:20

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Yeah silly question from me sorry; how would you re-tighten a standard mount?

Use a big punch and hammer and tap it round till tight on the three cut out sections Wink

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 02:13

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or use the right tool Razz

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 02:16

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welshpug! wrote:

or use the right tool Razz

Waste of money if you only use it once in a blue moon Razz

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Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 02:18

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coskev wrote:

dented_vts wrote:

Yeah silly question from me sorry; how would you re-tighten a standard mount?

Use a big punch and hammer and tap it round till tight on the three cut out sections Wink

I'd be very weary of that as it is only aluminium, you'll easily sheer it off.

Emailed spoox - they were very prompt on their reply which is very good. All 205/309/306 mounts are the same height - ~70mm.

Time to space up the gearbox Razz

Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 12:04

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So yeh, raised the gearbox mount by cutting the metal bush by around 8mm. The whole show sits fairly even now. Things like exhaust clearance are all okay.
Driveshafts sit at less of an angle too. All good people. Ghetto extra sump clearance mod. Cool

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tez_306 wrote:

coskev wrote:

dented_vts wrote:

Yeah silly question from me sorry; how would you re-tighten a standard mount?

Use a big punch and hammer and tap it round till tight on the three cut out sections Wink

I'd be very weary of that as it is only aluminium, you'll easily sheer it off.

Standard mount he was asking about,not your uprated one Wink

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Posted 2nd Apr 2010 at 03:44

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i had a similar issue when mounting my custom solid mounts and having to measure up for a solid spacer to go under the cradle arm. looks to be level now, don't know a proper way of telling if it's in relation to where it was before but looks flat atleast..

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but hang on a minute.. is the cradle that got welded in slightly higher up anyway?

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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 01:03

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mabgti wrote:

but hang on a minute.. is the cradle that got welded in slightly higher up anyway?

Yeh. I came to the conclusion that the reinforcing done on the cradle combined with the sagging gearbox mount had pronounced the height of the Spoox mount.

Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:37

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You can see the welded in section is flat, I always curve mine at the edges to they sit right at the bottom of the cup and onlyraise the mount hight by the thickness of the material (Usually 3-4mm) Wink

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