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lotek

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well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! Shock

the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated.

but LOOS hs returned.
Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 02:52
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lotek wrote:
well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! Shock

the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated.

but LOOS hs returned.


Learn to control that loos like its second nature and you can use that to turn the car in lovely. Shock
Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 03:00
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You want loos so you can control the car turning with your right foot Wink

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 16:46
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It can make a huge difference Big grin

see if adding the front strut brace makes a positive improvement. may/ may not

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 17:57
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lotek wrote:
well , i fitted a Hybrid ARB today and GOOD LORD my car is transformed !! Shock

the handling is spot on! understeer has been pretty much eradicated.

but LOOS hs returned.


I thought it was very difficult to get LOOS when you have a hybrid ARB? Dunno

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:17
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far from it, a lot easier but should be more progressive.

the way it reduces understeer is to reduce weight transfer induced roll, and although it does mean that the rear tyres are going to be flatter, it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road.

not sure if that'll mean more grip from a flatter tyre, or less grip as its only one tyre LOL

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:32
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far from it, a lot easier LOL


Oh joy, something to look forward too LOL I actually quite like it, as long as you know its coming its ok Yes Does having solid mounts do anything to it?

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 21:31
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welshpug! wrote:
far from it, a lot easier but should be more progressive.

the way it reduces understeer is to reduce weight transfer induced roll, and although it does mean that the rear tyres are going to be flatter, it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road.


not sure if that'll mean more grip from a flatter tyre, or less grip as its only one tyre LOL


Are you sure about waving a rear wheel, I would have thought it would help eliminate this? Ive noticed it can be coaxed into LOOS in the wet a lot easier since fitting the hybrid ARB and agreed it is more progressive - been having great fun on roundabouts in the wetLOL but I have ditch finders on the back and contis on the front which is definetly helping matters, will be interesting what happens when i switch them round Hmm

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 22:24
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rallyestyle wrote:
welshpug! wrote:
far from it, a lot easier LOL


Oh joy, something to look forward too LOL I actually quite like it, as long as you know its coming its ok Yes Does having solid mounts do anything to it?


After I posted I realised that I was thinking of solid mounts, not a hybrid ARB Doh

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:39
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welshpug! wrote:
it'll mean more often than not that only one rear wheel will be in contact with the road.


tell me about it!! LOL its a permanent tripod ! lmao
Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:44
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If it waves a rear wheel depends on your front springs/dampers/ alignment tbh. Mine still does but I have be really, really trying.

Right on the solid mounts yes - they'll reduce turn in speed and make loos a bit harder to initiate. Hence why I don't like them on a road car. Smile

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Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:45
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koni sport adj front and rear.

as of yesterday i set front to hard and increased front psi, seems to be alot more positive now .
still cocks a wheel though LOL
Posted 18th Mar 2010 at 23:49
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I have never really noticed loos on mine i have had some ovesteer moments tho Devil

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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 00:05
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Probably softish front springs, but don't worry about it Smile

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Posted 19th Mar 2010 at 00:55
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are you the two guys who was at brands on the 26th?
Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 00:00
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yes we are haha

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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:08
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haha i was the dude in the punto gt in the next garage. I did swap it for a GTI6.
Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:10
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shit dog your from reading to haha
Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:11
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haha i just noticed haha jokes what you got

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Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:17
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gti 6 lol
Posted 28th Mar 2010 at 03:18
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Lotek, I had a spin in a 205 Gti with front plate diff, absolutely stunning, but more track oriented.

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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:25
lotek

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A LSD is definately something i am going to consider!

the Hybrid ARB made a world of difference though!! Yes
Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:44
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shit dog your from reading to haha



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Posted 30th Mar 2010 at 00:45
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Post #49
On a FWD vehicle the rear end just trails around.

Reducing the rear grip, will balance out the understeer.
Higher tyres pressures, stiffer damping, larger anti roll bars etc will achieve this.

As for tyre pressures, stick to the manufactures recommended pressure, they know what they are talking about.

Rather than accelerating into corners, try braking and letting the front end raise fully before cornering, then applying a constant lock and throttle untill the apex..

Trail braking is great, but you have to be very careful at high speed or in the wet, and be ready to catch a whole heap of Lift-Off-Oversteer..
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 01:51
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Throttle before the apex?
Bugger that.

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