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Author Subject: Update: Not starting first time!
ar4ibaldo

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Post #1
When starting in the morning or after work, it doesn't want to start first time, but fires up the 2nd time you try it.

Below is the quick vid..... any ideas what the problem might be?

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Posted 15th Feb 2010 at 22:29
jaydog81

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Post #2
Sounds fuel/ spark plug/ coil related imo mate.

Give them all a check over.

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Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 01:20
ar4ibaldo

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Post #3
Thanks Jay, will look at them on saturday.

Any other suggestion guys? this is driving me nuts!!
Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 21:54
spike_uk06

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Post #4
Does the car misfire or hesitate or stutter when you're driving it?

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Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 22:04
lotek

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Post #5
when you turn key can you hear fuel pump priming?

when was it last serviced?
Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 22:12
ar4ibaldo

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Post #6
lotek wrote:
when you turn key can you hear fuel pump priming?

when was it last serviced?


Serviced about 3 weeks ago, with new oil filter, inc fuel filter. Pug OE parts used.

When turning the key, fuel pump is priming.

After the service was starting fine, this issue developed in the last couple of days.

spike_uk06 wrote:
Does the car misfire or hesitate or stutter when you're driving it?


Neither. However i should mention that when starting it today at work it wouldnt start at all, sort of almost firing up but cuttin out immediately. Finally started on the 4th attempt.
Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 22:47
spike_uk06

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Could be the TPS.....

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Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 22:53
dan_s16

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Post #8
IIRC if the cam position sensor dies it makes them difficult to start

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Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 23:21
mabgti

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Post #9
Interesting.. my mate has the same prob.. gotta feeling its either cam sensor or fuel relay!

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Posted 11th Feb 2010 at 23:27
darkgti6

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Post #10
Mine does this sometimes, runs fine and then just doesnt want to start - it even pops when trying sometimes.

Take the key out try again and it starts just fine, im thinking it could be an ignition barrel fault, immoboliser fault or loose connection in the steering coloumn somewhere!

Edit, it cant be the cam sensor or flywheel sensor because these have both been changed already!

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Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 00:21
davedgti6

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Post #11
Mine always does this, always starts second time though so not a problem

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Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 00:27
mabgti

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Think the SC cars take a few turns to fire anyway.. prolly cos of the charger spooling a few psi on crank..

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Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 04:23
ar4ibaldo

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Post #13
mabgti wrote:
Interesting.. my mate has the same prob.. gotta feeling its either cam sensor or fuel relay!


Where can i find the cam sensor and fuel relay?
Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 14:13
fletch

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Post #14
Mine had similar symptoms with a dying crank sensor (on top of the gearbox).

Replaced it and it started instantly.
Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 14:19
dan_s16

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Post #15
ar4ibaldo wrote:


Where can i find the cam sensor and fuel relay?


The cam sensor is the blue sensor in the cylinder head.

The fuel relay is bolted to the back of the battery/ecu housing. It sometimes breaks off though so you may find the bracket there and the relay itself hanging down from the wiring loom.

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Posted 12th Feb 2010 at 19:15
ar4ibaldo

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Post #16
Would not start on Friday or when it did.. would cut out.

Cleaned the TPS and now starts straight away.
Posted 15th Feb 2010 at 22:30
mabgti

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cleaned the tps? how so?

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Posted 15th Feb 2010 at 23:15
ar4ibaldo

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Post #18
mabgti wrote:
cleaned the tps? how so?


The stepper motor.
Posted 16th Feb 2010 at 19:07
adam b

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TPS and stepper are two different things Smile

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Posted 17th Feb 2010 at 00:43
allesclar

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Post #20
mabgti wrote:
Think the SC cars take a few turns to fire anyway.. prolly cos of the charger spooling a few psi on crank..


fires on the first turn mate for me Dunno

sounds as if its being starved of fuel for the first turn.

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Posted 17th Feb 2010 at 00:48
ar4ibaldo

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Post #21
adam b wrote:
TPS and stepper are two different things Smile


My bad, got the two mixed up.

It was the stepper that i cleaned.
Posted 17th Feb 2010 at 06:19

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