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 oecken
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Both my Fans seem to be coming on randomly, have checked the Brown sensor and all seems to look fine, not that dirty either... what other things could it be, Engine / Temp etc acts as it should.could it just be dirty inside the sensor itself so not making a connection? Ta' ________________________________________  Ex-Black 6  - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
 Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 01:57
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mpaul
Regular  Location: Lossiemouth Registered: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 251 Status: Offline |
Post #2
My 1.6 glx used to do this. I cleaned the sensor and blasted it with wd40 as well in case there was water in it. It actually turned out to be losing coolant due to a perishing pipe, which eventually let go at 70mph, leaving me stranded and waiting for the AA. I would definitely try cleaning it first. See if that makes any difference. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 03:14
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gti6-ginge
Regular  Location: Peterborough Registered: 04 Jun 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #3
had this problem turned out to be the fan control unit (bitron) located behind the wheel arch liner on the passenger side they fill up with water and coroade the terminals causing the problems you have givin. replaced mine and sealed it in a zip bag to stop water getting in. hope this helps ________________________________________ MY CAR WAS BUILT ON 17/03/2000 THATS A FRIDAY OH NO |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 04:05
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psjunkie
Seasoned Pro  Location: Halifax Registered: 31 Aug 2007 Posts: 1,565 Status: Offline |
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gti6-ginge wrote: had this problem turned out to be the fan control unit (bitron) located behind the wheel arch liner on the passenger side they fill up with water and coroade the terminals causing the problems you have givin. replaced mine and sealed it in a zip bag to stop water getting in. hope this helps thought the bitron was next to the ecu or is that jus me!  ________________________________________ 1997 P1 Gti 6 Charged |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 04:40
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farmer
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Your thinking the double pole relay are you not?Black and red thing, attached to the back of the ECU box. As said, bitron is up behind the NS wheel / arch. ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6 Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 04:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
technically Bitron is a manufacturer of electrical components, namely relays electronic control units and sensors, the relay is made by bitron, the brown sensor is made by bitron, the cooling fan/a/c control unit is made by Bitron, the central lockign unit is made by Bitron, etc   ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 05:01
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #7
soooo... if it the "Bitron" is this expensive im guessing it may have something to do with the previous owner removing wheel arches to fit 17's on  ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2010 at 15:28
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ewenmac123
Newbie  Location: invergarry Registered: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #8
i had same problem and have just finished cleaning the bitron unit and problem solved. just take it of and give the terminals a clean with wd40 and dry it should do the trick________________________________________ dooby |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 00:17
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
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ewenmac123 wrote: i had same problem and have just finished cleaning the bitron unit and problem solved. just take it of and give the terminals a clean with wd40 and dry it should do the trick okay cheers buddy, i know there only about ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 00:32
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I think you're beginning to see the difference between want and need ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 15:42
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #11
i dont know what your talking about  buts its only ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 17:01
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bubbagti6
Regular Location: shrewsbury Registered: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 152 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I had the same with mine. took it (bitron) out clean back in bobs your unncle. if that fails there are 3 relays under the grill which also control the fans hope it helps________________________________________ They may take my crayonsbut they'll never have my windows |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 18:22
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #13
bubbagti6 wrote: I had the same with mine. took it (bitron) out clean back in bobs your unncle. if that fails there are 3 relays under the grill which also control the fans hope it helps Cheers Bubba, il try that first! ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 21:45
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #14
where is the bitron unit and where is this brown switch your on about as ive got a 6 that the fans arent working on, im looking at just putting in a relay and a switch as probly cheapest option.________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 23:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #15
brown sensor is in the thermostat housing, relays in the middle of the fans.don't use a switch, that's just a bodge waiting for an eric when you forget to turn it on.... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2010 at 23:46
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #16
well i changed the relays an it never done anything, so what else is there to check? if i pull that brown switch off the fans should kick in??on my rallye its got orginal wiring for fan so it runs as normal but when on the track on the cool down lap ive got it to a switch which kicks the fans in at a quicker speed, all wired up good, not by me tho lol ________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 00:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #17
have you checked you have power to the relays? try manually switching the relays with a power probe, the fan would come on then, IF its not seized which is very common.another fault can be the control unit. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 00:16
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #18
there is power to fans as checked with probe________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 00:26
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #19
they both spin by hand easy enough________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 00:26
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #20
try switching the relays with the probe then  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 00:36
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #21
tried that didnt work mate________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 04:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #22
dead relays or a dead fan then ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Feb 2010 at 04:38
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #23
will try powering the fans, looks like there is a red wire (prev bodge) going from relay box bit to the main loom, think its going to be best sticking a switch on rather than trying to sort it out as the guy isint wanting to spend alot on it really.________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 7th Feb 2010 at 06:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #24
furry muff, he'll be back for a headgasket not too long wishing he'd spent the cash fixing it properly or the new owner will be anyway.... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 7th Feb 2010 at 16:19
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #25
thats why it was in as he thought the HG was away but was only a f*cked rad cap and fans not working, he doesnt use it that much so would end up being the next owner, will have a proper loo 2m, as been busy with my own stuff________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 7th Feb 2010 at 22:53
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