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When replacing the whole pipe, from pump to ram, how do you get the pipe at the pump end undone ?It is a solid pipe, but if I try to undo the nut then the pipe twists with it....any ideas ?
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 silky
Seasoned Pro  Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
It is a solid pipe, but if I try to undo the nut then the pipe twists with it....any ideas ? |
 Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:41
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #2
You need to hold the bit next to the nut (pump side) with some mole grips, then use a spanner to undo the nut.I did it yesterday, had to get a mate to use the mole grips while I undid the nut, was a bit tight. HTH  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:45
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #3
What I could see was the pipe heading towards the pump, then a nut, then the thread and then a larger nut on the pump itself.I tried undoing the nut next to the pipe first but this didn't work, also tried holding the bottom bolt while undoing the top one and still the pipe twisted |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:47
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #4
cjm_harris wrote: You need to hold the bit next to the nut (pump side) with some mole grips, then use a spanner to undo the nut Do you mean the threaded part ? |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:48
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fozzy_255
Senior User  Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I had trouble with my PAS pipe, it turned fine on the thred but then got jammed with dirt so wouldt turn on the pipe if that makes sense but it was turning in the actual pump. As i was replacing the pipe as it was leaking i snaped the pipe off above the thread and then just undid it by hand. Im not sure if that makes sense. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:55
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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Would you be able to get a picture of the bit you mean?________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:56
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #7
If the pipe is coming off then is it ok to snap it off and then not worry about it twisting ?Will I then be able to undo the nut etc to be able to put a new pipe on ? |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 17:57
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fozzy_255
Senior User Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #8
the pipe has a nut/thread thats part of the pipe which threads on the pipe and into the pump, if you have the new pipe to replace it with you can have a look.Don't snap it unless you are sure you have the parts to replace it. the pump should be left with just a threaded whole. It was my Dturbo which i replaced pipe on but i can't see there being any difference. Try and get some photos. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 18:42
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fozzy_255
Senior User Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Ok bare with me im not good at explaing.This is an image i can find thats closest to what i can explain. This has a thread on the inside aswell as the outside. Its part of the pipe not the pump. so if its loose in the pump and not on the pipe.  What i did was snap the pipe and just undo it by hand as was seized on the pipe but loose in the pump. Does that make sense. Im not one for good description, im more of a being there and showing. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 18:49
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #10
So I could snap the pipe off just above the nut, then undo this part from the pump ? |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 18:54
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #11
The large metal clamps/clips which join some of the rubber parts of the hose to metal parts, can these be undone and done up again easily enough ?They are pretty big, is it a special tool that you need |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 20:17
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #12
may be called a high pressure crimped joint |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 20:22
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fozzy_255
Senior User Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I cnat say for saure without seeing wat you doin but if the pipe is knackered anyway and being replaced nothing lost by snapping it. And as for the high pressure crimp joints, ide replace the whole pipe as one unit metal and rubber bits. As you dont wnat to have further leaks in the futre. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 21:57
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I'll try and get some pics tonight, though is very dark so camera flash will have to do.Might try and heat the nuts up on the pupmp to help un-seize them |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 21:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #15
the ends that screw into the rack are exactly like a brake pipe union, and similarly they often seize onto the pipe giving the issue you are experiencing now.heat wont help I'm afraid, it may also damage the seals so I would avoid trying that. if you are replacing the pipe I would just cut them off as mentioned, and use a 6 sided socket on the union. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 22:05
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silky
Seasoned Pro Location: Chelmsford, Essex Registered: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,470 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Got the end off that goes into the rack, its the end that goes into the top of the pump that is seized and twisting the pipe |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 22:07
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #17
do as welshpug says, that sounds the best solution |
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Posted 1st Feb 2010 at 22:28
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