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Author Subject: What should engine be revving at at certain speeds?
kezman7

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Something i noticed the other day and got me thinking...

In 6th at 70mph its revving at 4.5k

To me this seems alittle high for cruizing. Surely it should be alittle lower than that??

Ticks over at around 900rpm.

Also seems to have lost abit of power since i fitted this new exhaust would a new backbox affect the revs?
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 16:59
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yes thats about 1200 revs too high. I would get it looked at, could be the clutch?

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Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:02
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I knew something was'nt right, Cluch seems ok, don't slip and bite is pretty low on the pedal. Going to Carl for a caliper change as soon as i get a day off work so will see what he things.
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:04
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Just remembered that there HDI clocks but with the petrol insert so maybe thats the reason. might just be clock reading wrong?

Speedo reads fine in par with satnav so unsure?
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:06
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1200 out are you sure?

3K rpm in 6th is about 60 mph
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:20
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Ill go out now and see what it is at 60 in 6th and also afew other speeds
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:27
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justinaccurate wrote:
1200 out are you sure?

3K rpm in 6th is about 60 mph


yeah,

that gives you about 3300 revs at 70mph, thats what mine is rougly

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Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 17:55
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kezman7 wrote:
Just remembered that there HDI clocks but with the petrol insert so maybe thats the reason. might just be clock reading wrong?

Speedo reads fine in par with satnav so unsure?

That's more than likely the reason why Yes

What does the rev counter read on the limiter?

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Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 18:16
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My 6 reads exactly 3250rpm at 70mph in 6th gear, in 195/55/15 tyres as well.

65mph is exactly 3000rpm

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Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 20:32
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matt evans wrote:
My 6 reads exactly 3250rpm at 70mph in 6th gear, in 195/55/15 tyres as well.


Snap, apart from i'm on 50 profiles. I've set my speedo using sat nav so should be pretty accurate.
Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 21:09
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Sure your in 6th.

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Posted 29th Dec 2009 at 22:22
kezman7

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The dial reads 8k and when revved it hits it at just off the dial. Ye sure its in 6th I had to check afew times. Will try the old Gti dials tomorrow and if they show different then ill have to get a new set
Posted 30th Dec 2009 at 02:55
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Just thinking today, it may be a real stupid question so i'm ready to take a slating, but would a engine rev higher at a certain speed if it had a lightened flywheel? Confused

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Posted 30th Dec 2009 at 23:58
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no LOL

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 00:03
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welshpug! wrote:
no LOL

Ah....Thanks

Right end of then, no more comments needed.LOL

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 00:08
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kezman7 wrote:
The dial reads 8k and when revved it hits it at just off the dial. Ye sure its in 6th I had to check afew times. Will try the old Gti dials tomorrow and if they show different then ill have to get a new set


Sure the rev limiter is set at about 7300rpm?

Looks like it's definitely overreading for some reason.

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 00:11
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I suspect it's down to the HDi flywheel having a different speed pick-up configuration and therefore the signal the sensor produces is a different frequency to one produced by the GTi's setup.

(Sounds like it's a lower frequency on the HDi if the rev counter is over reading on the GTi setup)

This also fits with the reading being near correct at low revs and increasing in inaccuracy as the engine speed increases as the HDi rev counter will obviously be calibrated to the HDi pick-up.

kezman7 wrote:
Will try the old Gti dials tomorrow and if they show different then ill have to get a new set

I take it there's a problem with the GTi clocks but the rev counter still works? The GTi rev counter may still work correctly if you put it into the HDi clocks.

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 07:03
toby

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Gearing in sixth should be 21.5 mph per 1000 rpm.

So 70mph is 3256rpm, in real life terms the speedo will probably show a bit more as they over read.

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 21:36
welshpug!

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3252 rpm @ 70 mph on 195 55 15 and an early 4.05 FD,

later cars have a 3.95 F.D so 22.1 mph/1000 and 3171 rpm @ 70 mph on 195 55 15.

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Posted 31st Dec 2009 at 23:03
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welshpug! wrote:
3252 rpm @ 70 mph on 195 55 15 and an early 4.05 FD,

later cars have a 3.95 F.D so 22.1 mph/1000 and 3171 rpm @ 70 mph on 195 55 15.

Pretty sure that it's the other way around - early cars had the longer 3.95 (19x75) FD, which was shortened to 4.06 (19x77) on the later cars, I assume to improve acceleration to compensate for the increased weight of the Phase 2/3 models over the Phase 1's.

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Posted 1st Jan 2010 at 21:15
welshpug!

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quite right, got it wrong way round, always thought the earlier higher RPM Limit went with the lower F/D, date show in SB is 1997 06 01

In that case I'd like a phase 1 6 box for my 405 not a phase 2 on box.

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