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asim_pug306

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Post #1
Is it just me or do other 306 owners experience this?

My drivers side electric window switch works when it wants to and doesn't when its angry with me I think. Now it used to do it once in a while but since yesterday it completely stopped working.

So I popped down to the scrappers today for a new switch, which didn't work either. Leading me to the conclusion that it's either a blown fuse or a wiring issue.

Got back into the car and it starts working again! But its only working with the doors shut.

Help!!

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 20:16
welshpug!

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wiring issue Thumbs up

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 20:18
asim_pug306

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Hmmm would that be the wires on the inside of the door?

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 20:21
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Post #4
best bet is to pick up a door loom, quick and easy to try before you go down any other tangents
Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 21:35
asim_pug306

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Are the door looms different for each model or will any 306 door loom do?

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 21:45
welshpug!

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Post #6
IIRC there are 3 different plugs used that are not compatible with each other, pull one of your off and check the number of pins.

you can get a repair section with a length of wire attached to every pin, you just connect up the relevant ones as a patch into your loom.

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 21:47
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I bet you a fiver it works when the door is open/ ajar Thumbs up

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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 21:50
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wiring loom inbetween door

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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 01:18
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Post #9
silver6 wrote:
I bet you a fiver it works when the door is open/ ajar Thumbs up


Works only with the doors shut now. But yesterday they were completely gone

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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 03:31
asim_pug306

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welshpug! wrote:
IIRC there are 3 different plugs used that are not compatible with each other, pull one of your off and check the number of pins.

you can get a repair section with a length of wire attached to every pin, you just connect up the relevant ones as a patch into your loom.


Well it's the first of the phase 3's so it doesn't have the one touch automatic drivers window so I think that's the 6 pin one?

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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 03:33
welshpug!

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Doh not the window switch, the wiring loom in the doorshut Laugh my ass off

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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 03:46
simonjames

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Post #12
as abobe the loom that come from the dash the the pillar and plugs to the door bit

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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 04:17
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Post #13
over time the door wiring loom streches,check door pins, drivers side always goes fiddly job replace short loom and door pin if required, as a try disconnct switch from plug underneath, spray with wd40, rreconnect try again, if that fails, new loomMellow
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 00:23
armzsc6

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Can anyone tell me how to remove the door looms from both sides? doesnt pull out very far and loads of broken wires so either got a lot of soldering to do or new loom. Just be nice to know where it plugs in at the other end etc, have removed fuse box assembly etc and cant see it, looks further up behind the dash maybe?

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Posted 13th Feb 2010 at 21:31
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i need to do this both sides on both of my six's btw so if its a bas**rd then i'm gonna have fun arent i lol

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Posted 13th Feb 2010 at 21:33
asim_pug306

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I still haven't solved this. Went to the scrappers and he couldn't get the loom out from behind the dash so still no window for me

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Posted 13th Feb 2010 at 21:57
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just started getting this on my china p3! ah the joys LOL

driver side window works fine, switch on driver side for pass side does nothing, pass side switch i can hear it clicking when pressing to lift the window but nothing when going down. grr

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Posted 12th Mar 2010 at 22:41
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just peeled the driver side boot back at the plug and can see a thick white wire snapped clean in two, and an earth wire looking fragile so another job for tomorrow whipping door off and soldering to hopefully cure it temporarily LOL

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Posted 13th Mar 2010 at 00:51
asim_pug306

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Post #19
I've only just got mine sorted today! Went through all sorts with the wires and switch. Ended up just taking it to a proper electrician, sorted with a

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Posted 13th Mar 2010 at 01:22
iplay

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The door switches are also cleverly designed to allow grit to fall down into them. I would clean out the switch first before swapping looms.
Posted 13th Mar 2010 at 01:53
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job jobbed

one of the small earths had also broke right at the collar of the plug so doubt if that goes i'll be able to repair it again as i have nothing left to strip back

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Posted 14th Mar 2010 at 18:30
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Post #22
how hard is it to take the door off, same thing happened with mine but a chocie block had bodged it at the mo , need to solder it somewhen , but gonna be a pain to do it with the door on.
cheers
Posted 16th Mar 2010 at 00:38
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jackcross1989 wrote:
how hard is it to take the door off, same thing happened with mine but a chocie block had bodged it at the mo , need to solder it somewhen , but gonna be a pain to do it with the door on.
cheers


Unplug the door loom, undo the two bolts holding the check strap to the door and the 2 bolts on top of the door hinges and lift.

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Posted 16th Mar 2010 at 01:45
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smegal wrote:
jackcross1989 wrote:
how hard is it to take the door off, same thing happened with mine but a chocie block had bodged it at the mo , need to solder it somewhen , but gonna be a pain to do it with the door on.
cheers


Unplug the door loom, undo the two bolts holding the check strap to the door and the 2 bolts on top of the door hinges and lift.


cheers smegal will have a look i was just worried if undo-ing the bolts that hold the strap strap on would have nuts on the other side and would fall into the fuse box bit.
Posted 16th Mar 2010 at 03:42
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nope pre-threaded so just remove the 4 bolts, 10mm hex head and job is jobbed. refitting the door is just as easy, the pins on the door sit in the holes and it'll rest on there anyway

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Posted 16th Mar 2010 at 03:52

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