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 lukejenks101
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5,694 Status: Offline |
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Done a search but couldn't find anythingHas anyone on here ever fitted one? This one What else would be needed? Could do with a future investment when insurance wont rape me  ________________________________________ PS3 I.D - jenkers101Live i.d - Lukejenks1201 |
 Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 03:29
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
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It should produce similar power to Rich's sc but with more torque and rubbish power delivery. A diff will help but masses of torque delivered 'all of a sudden' will just spin the front wheels and create lots of torque steer. Plus turbo lag is pants if you go for a big turbo.The good thing about the sc kits is the nice linear power delivery which helps prevent the wheels spinning up, and its nice and driveable. You'll need similar internals, boost piping etc as for a sc. The same sort of rules apply to tc as sc. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 04:20
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lukejenks101
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5,694 Status: Offline |
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i was looking at either the 260bhp or 300, dont fancy having to rebuild the engine  so would you say there is probably another 2k to be spent on top of that? ________________________________________ PS3 I.D - jenkers101Live i.d - Lukejenks1201 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 12:11
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,282 Status: Offline |
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Supercharger FTMFWWBYKIMS! |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 12:55
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro  Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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i wouldnt feel happy planting my foot down on a boost engine with standard internals, i'd be thinking everytime is this the time the big ends give in________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 12:53
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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I love turbo torque but have to agree that if put through the front wheels it will easily spin them up. You need RWD or AWD to make the most of it. Lag in my impreza aint to bad though, slipping the clutch helps on gear changes i find as the revs dont drop off. Also, i think sc a 6 is cheaper proven avenue and at low boost you shouldnt need to change the internals.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 13:27
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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Do it mate, Superchargers are common as muck  I know that the linear power of a s/c is much better and won't spin up easily and blow gearboxes etc, but nothing beats the feeling of when the boost kicks in, slams you back in your seat like you get with t/c  Oh and got to love the "woop-tish" of a dump valve ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 13:57
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lukejenks101
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5,694 Status: Offline |
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I've never really read up about turbo's, is it as simple as fitting a supercharger or is there more work to be done? ________________________________________ PS3 I.D - jenkers101Live i.d - Lukejenks1201 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 14:01
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,458 Status: Offline |
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sir, im am not familier with this acronymquote: FTMFWWBYKIMS ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 14:05
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Pointless IMO, you'll lose drivability, and go through gearboxes like theyres no tomorrow. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 15:08
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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fletch wrote: you'll lose drivability, and go through gearboxes like theyres no tomorrow. Indeed, but when it works will be a lot of fun  If you use your car day to day, then yes s/c is definately the way forward. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 15:21
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lukejenks101
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 5,694 Status: Offline |
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Looking more at supercharging then, wont be for a long time anyway, insurance is 4.5k on low boost so f*ck that! ________________________________________ PS3 I.D - jenkers101Live i.d - Lukejenks1201 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 16:16
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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lukejenks101 wrote: Looking more at supercharging then, wont be for a long time anyway, insurance is 4.5k on low boost so f*ck that! Really  I'm 23 and with Adrian Flux, but I am soon to be fitting throttle bodies and they said it won't affect my premium at all, I can go to 250bhp before it will change  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 16:22
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dr-evil
Senior User  Location: Crewe Registered: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 901 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Good mapping and sensible turbo selection for the win Could we just start a list of new cars with turbos fitted that don't eat gearboxes, spit diffs and torque steer hedge to hedge ...  ________________________________________ Cad Monkey will work for chocolate biscuits....I'm not kidding |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 17:53
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Find a decent small twinscroll turbo, get it mapped properly with a decent manifold and don't go too over the top with the power and it'd be ok.Been seriously thinking about creating a low boost, low lag simple conversion to say 200, 220 max using a small turbo and small intercooler to reduce lag. Get it mapped by Wayne on the standard ecu. I'd try to get the torque up to say 200lbft as you wouldn't have the torque steer / gearbox issues. Just a thought anyway.... ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 19:17
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: Find a decent small twinscroll turbo, get it mapped properly with a decent manifold and don't go too over the top with the power and it'd be ok. Been seriously thinking about creating a low boost, low lag simple conversion to say 200, 220 max using a small turbo and small intercooler to reduce lag. Get it mapped by Wayne on the standard ecu. I'd try to get the torque up to say 200lbft as you wouldn't have the torque steer / gearbox issues. Just a thought anyway.... Thing is peak torque is just a figure, what happens when you go for 100lb/ft to 200lb/ft in half a second: the wheels spin. I know you can map around these things, but seems like the wrong solution. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 19:45
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
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dr-evil wrote: Good mapping and sensible turbo selection for the win Could we just start a list of new cars with turbos fitted that don't eat gearboxes, spit diffs and torque steer hedge to hedge ... All the components are designed to take the power and torque with millions of pounds worth of testing whereas in the 6 theyre aren't designed for it. Since binka is the only member on here whos had a powerful turbo GTi-6 probably best to speak to him. Last I heard, he was disappointed in the car, given the amount of money he spent on it. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 19:47
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,282 Status: Offline |
Post #18
russbez wrote: sir, im am not familier with this acronym quote: FTMFWWBYKIMS For The Mother f*cking Win Weiner Boy You Know It Makes Sense  |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 23:12
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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can these not be entered in to the forums filter so when somebody types the letters the acctual sentance comes out? (i know i can do it on my forum not sure if this site can do it)________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 23:28
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t11hac
Senior User  Location: North East Registered: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 596 Status: Offline |
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http://www.ecosse-peugeot.co.uk/about.htmThey will make you a gear box for a grand that ________________________________________ Team Black Rallye |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 23:35
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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Above as a Clicky________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 23:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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a grand? feck that's some profit! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2009 at 23:39
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
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You can't build an 'indestructable' gearbox for under a grand  If you could I would have bought one... ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 00:37
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t11hac
Senior User Location: North East Registered: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 596 Status: Offline |
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Well I phoned them and had an in-depth conversation with them when I asked about taking my 6 up to 380bhp I asked all the questions on the internals and gear box and the dude on the phone said one thousand pound sir and we can make you an indestructible gear box ________________________________________ Team Black Rallye |
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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 03:44
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sosmotorsport
Regular  Location: falkirk Registered: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 339 Status: Offline |
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you could'nt make a gearbox indestructible for 10k never mind 1k .as for the turbo kits its alot more drivable than most of you seem to think but alot of it would depend on peoples driving style as for doing shaft and boxes etc am on the 2nd set of shafts and 1st gearbox since i built my first 230bhp 8v turbo engine 2 years ago and now on the 380bhp turbo 16v engine which its been with for approx 8 months ________________________________________ SOS Motorsportwww.sosmotorsport.co.uk 450bhp 205 16v Turbo www.facebook.com/pages/SOS-Motorsport/159917677353556 |
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Posted 28th Nov 2009 at 03:54
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