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Author Subject: Fed up with it....
fripper

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Post #1
Cant get my car to run properly, it judders at low revs misfires on idle, i have changed and checkt all sensor and cables, injectors.. and so on.

I'm so f*cking tired of this shit, the lovely car is destroyed by this annoying problem, and nobody seems to know anything that can be wrong Sad

Can't stand driving it no more...

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Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 20:19
bigbadbowen

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Post #2
Ok run me through what you have checked and changed - details pls bud ???

Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 20:00
fripper

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Well spark plugs and coils are new, map and lambda is new (bosch) new tps & cts. Compression is fine and it runs lovely under load but like shit when driving slowly on low revs.

I have checked all sensor i can check and they all seemed fine :S

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 13:49
c.a.r.

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ICV is the only one you haven't gone for, that and the Lambda - though that's more overfuelling/overrevving than juddering.

I'm in the same boat with mine.

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Posted 2nd Nov 2009 at 23:42
smegal

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Green coolant temp sensor?

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 00:22
peugeot dave

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Worth checking the alternator connections too. I not that long ago rebuilt mine, and this silly little thing caused me loads of juddering issues.
good luck sorting it and chin up.

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 00:57
allesclar

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coil packs possibliy?

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 01:07
fripper

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c.a.r. wrote:
ICV is the only one you haven't gone for, that and the Lambda - though that's more overfuelling/overrevving than juddering.

I'm in the same boat with mine.


Well i did clean and check the ICV but it worked like it should and i didn't see any different after cleaning it. and jepp lambda is new (bosch one)

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 13:32
fripper

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peugeot dave wrote:
Worth checking the alternator connections too. I not that long ago rebuilt mine, and this silly little thing caused me loads of juddering issues.
good luck sorting it and chin up.


Ill give that a go, thanks Smile

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Posted 3rd Nov 2009 at 13:50
fripper

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Post #10
Well well, trying ti fix my misfiring problems aren't easy. Anyways i recently changed my a spark plugs to some original pug ones. That did help a bit butt didn't solve the problem.

Well i accidental unplugged the camshaft position sensor and what the hell no more misfire?

It's removed right now , and it's never been running this smooth Smilewill be ordering a new one tomorrow...

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Posted 31st May 2010 at 16:46
neilgti85

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I've currently got the same problem, did you replace the camshaft sensor?

Is it ok to run with it unplugged??
Posted 16th Jun 2010 at 16:18
fripper

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Jepps, try unplugging it first and see if that helps, it might be more difficult to start without it butt otherwise it's fine to keep it unplugged.

Since i have changed the cam-sensor it runs like new Smile joys of joy

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Posted 16th Jun 2010 at 17:30
neilgti85

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You are talking about the sensor ontop of the gearbox, not the cam sensor on the head?
Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 16:35
armzsc6

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i have the same problem and have had since i bought the car Sad tried every sensor other than nock and cam. Will be un plugging mine and trying out tonight. However i think my problem is the ecu's controll of the idle valve as it keeps putting up fault code 22 even with a new one on... I've got a spare cam sensor anyway so we shal see!

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 18:56
fripper

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neilgti85 wrote:
You are talking about the sensor ontop of the gearbox, not the cam sensor on the head?


Im talking about the blue cam sensor..... unplugging the brown crank sensor wont do any good

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 19:32
fripper

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armzs16 wrote:
i have the same problem and have had since i bought the car Sad tried every sensor other than nock and cam. Will be un plugging mine and trying out tonight. However i think my problem is the ecu's controll of the idle valve as it keeps putting up fault code 22 even with a new one on... I've got a spare cam sensor anyway so we shal see!


Just try unplugging it........btw the crank sensor you can test simply using a multimeter.... butt if it's f*cked it shouldn't start at all.

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Posted 17th Jun 2010 at 19:36
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smegal wrote:
Green coolant temp sensor?
Yes +1
Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 01:27
armzsc6

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i have 2 gti-6's and a load of spare sensors. My black 6 with running problems has had idle valve, lambda, green coolant, tps, map, coil packs, plugs, injectors, fuel rail, etc etc.
A mate of mine has access to a scanner that reads my 6 and gives live data. The same fault code (code 22) air fuel ratio mixture adaptation keeps returning. However autodata states 22 as being the icv.
Live data on all sensors is spot on. Apart from the icv which it seems the ecu has no idea what percentage to request. At times it was 1% and should increase with etern extra load you add but didnt. And other times shot up to 99 or 100% and did not move.
Cam sensor does not give a live data reading so cant check that on there but drove home from work today with it disconnected and seemed to behave itself. Will leave it off for a week or so as the car has a habit of running spot on for a week after an ecu reset then juddering resumes.

Pete.

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 05:30
khj100

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Ahhh the weekly ECU reset.

Fond memories of the first year or two of the forum, when that was the sum total of our collective mechanical abilities and we did genuinely all used to do weekly ECU resets Laugh

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 12:43
armzsc6

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lol you've been around a while then, i'm not saying i do it very often just it can run spot on for anything from a day to 2 weeks after a re-set then the juddering and misfiring resumes Sad

On 90 percent of ecu controlled cars if the cam sensor was faulty or unplugged the car would either not start at all or would cut out all the time. But not a 6! Lol

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Posted 18th Jun 2010 at 15:20
fripper

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armzs16 wrote:
lol you've been around a while then, i'm not saying i do it very often just it can run spot on for anything from a day to 2 weeks after a re-set then the juddering and misfiring resumes Sad

On 90 percent of ecu controlled cars if the cam sensor was faulty or unplugged the car would either not start at all or would cut out all the time. But not a 6! Lol


I wish i had figured it out sooner , it would have saved me a lot of cash and time.

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Posted 19th Jun 2010 at 01:01

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